Magnetos of Bf109E-4/Trop
 

i noticed that the Magnetos of bf109E-4/trop in FH2 2.0 has their magneto switched to 0, that way the engine shouldn't operate


very minor issue though. :o

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Press 'x' to boost the magneto in the game.

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Only on FH forums.

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Elaborate please....
Boast as the analogue to afterburner? MW-50? WEP? ADI? Does it do anything? Or does it mean that the mags are "boosted" so as to produce a fatter spark? (in that case horsepower would not increase, well maybe in certain circumstances it would, say the the spark was weak to begin with, something I highly doubt in a high performance liquid cooled v12 engine)

agrees with ww2freak

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Sure, its WEP, knock yourself out.

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magneto boosting just shows you the depth of the FH devs work

good find VM

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Mudra how did you even discover this anyways???

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Trial and error.

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Thanks to Mudra, I've been "in on this" for a while and I can definitely see the difference it makes though if we could keep it on the down low...

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Mudra- Divulge all of the information you have about the penumbras of FH
Coca-cola: Sellout like Mudra and expound on your "enlightened knowledge"
:p

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he already said how to boost the magnetos. although it only works with a couple other button combinations. magnetos were tricky to increase IRL and that is reflected in game

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I know many things. But I only let them out in small doses.

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I can wag my finger with great confidence that Mudra and Coca-cola know precisely when Normandy will be released. But they have been brainwashed by lobo to "not know that they know" its quite simple really- The Spaniard beams messages up to the far side of the moon and there they are reflected off the secret nazi moon base where they are amplified and sent back down to Coca-cola's fillings and Mudra's lafette

Its all right there in the 1st and 3rd letters of every 4th word of lobo's postings.

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Haha I was wondering how long it would take this to get out! I've known since like day 3, it's pretty sweet and can help a lot during air to air and even air to ground when that pesky AAA sets ablaze, the keys vary from downlaod to download though, just got to play and see what yours is set too!

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You will get my magneto from my cold dead hands, punks

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Sorry, guys, i should point out that Magneto setting is "this"



again, when it's switched to 0 like that in FH, the engine should not be working.




note the 0 RPM of the Engine...


again, this is not affecting gameplay anyway. Flying in FH2 need not to be realistic?

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Point taken Henry, must have slipped the texturer.
The guy were having fun though. :rofl:

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I know what Magnetos is, but is this what the thread is about? The cockpit image - wow. :moon: anal

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Dude, what?

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Small the thread was supposed to point out that the Switch, as it is in FH2 atm, is in the wrong position for the planes to fly. Nothing more and nothing less... although some got carried away. :)

Anyway I will mention it to the devs. thx.

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:lol:

:gpost:

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Oh Please!!! Let me know when you do! I want to be there when you tell this to Toddel! I pity you not Toddel, but should still be fun to watch

:Popcorn:

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I'm sure toddel won't mind redoing it. :p :banned:

You should join us on the FtN TS Server any day. He is actually a fine chap if you don't tick him of. :D

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OK Im confused.

A magneto as I know it is sort of like a distributor driven off the engine with a generator/alternator built into the base. Its the ignition system and electrical system all in one.

So how do magnetos boost power? The switch in question should ground out or enable the magnetos meaning the engine should run or not run.

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I will support toddel in any kind of violent razzia against any brave daring to report this, I have said

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I mentioned this before. Basically all reciprocating aircraft engines use a magneto. A magneto is a generator type device that is hooked to the crankshaft of the engine. When the engine turns the magneto energizes and creates electricity suitable for arcing across a spark plug. This arc contains a large amount of energy, large enough to ignite the fuel air mixture which causes the piston to be pushed down producing torque. This torque powers the magneto so the system repeats itself.

Reliability is paramount in an aviation engine and this is why they use magnetos. Magnetos are heavy and not very adjustable and they have been replaced in cars today by a battery and alternator. If you disconnect the battery of a modern car the engine will not run.

Aircraft engines use 2 magnetos for extra redundancy and thats why the selector says 1, 2, 1+2, and 0. Before takeoff the pilot performs a mag check by running up the engines to ~2500 RPM to ensure that the mags are working properly. If for example he switches it to mag 1 and the RPM falls it would be indicative that there is a problem with mag 1.

Aircraft engines also have 2 spark plugs per cylinder, with each plug hooked to mag 1 or mag 2. This provides another degree of redundancy and it also enables more complete combustion leading to better efficiency and power.

The use of the magnetos for a "power boost" ingame is largely artistic license.

It makes for good eye-candy though!

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Not to be a debbie downer, Magnetos are meant not for " boosting " but for engine management. With magneto 1 on the RPM should drop around 100 - 200 RPM. with both Magnetos on, you turn the starter switch on a real airplane and the engine will start. But on the real BF109 E they had the magneto setting, as above in the picture, and to start it you pushed a button in.

Excuse my know-it-all-ness. But its just a taste of realism coming from a real pilot.

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many German planes have visible Magneto settings too... :)

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Ok, I apologize for what I said, it is not the magneto that causes the boost in the FH planes, it is the WEP, I unfortunetly thought that they were the same.... However, yes, WEP is shown in FH2.

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Now, I am no BF-109 expert, but be that as it may I don't think the E-4 had war emergency power. If it did, I would not be able to locate it. I know on the Spitfire MK.(Insert model # here) had a "clamp" that allowed the pilot to push the throttle further to give them that extra boost in power.

Now maybe I'm wanting TOO much realism in BF2. But hey, I like to get away from the "Real-World" of aviation as much as other pilots do and shoot people down without worrying about engine temp. and etcetera.

:)

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Yes, I received this transmission from the moon as well...

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the E-7 had one though... but the E-7 is a rubbish in the game iL-2.

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*cought* sure i will correct this for sure.... Immedeadly. Aye Sir.

But what should i do when i just sit in the plane and the engine is turned off?????


Ah then i correct the model again. :) Sounds like a Great plan, or?


No to stay with the truth. you can be glad to have such a detailed Cockpit that you can see the Magneto! /me rolleyes.

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Can you turn off the engine in FH2? :confused: I thought it was always on, even when joystick/keyboard is at no throttle. If at all possible in BF2, shutting down the engine would be really great for tanks!!

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With a few exceptions...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rtiamtoday.png

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Well, I am just trying to mention some reasonable facts.

As for the model, I would say let the model show that the magnetos are both on at all times. I mean the engine CAN be turned off with the magnetos on. But it is VERY bad for the engine. This is battle-field 2 anyway :rolleyes:

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I just can't resist posting more!:p As cream cheese said its bad to shut off an airplane engine by cutting the ignition because the cylinders still pull in fuel...and this will foul the plugs or worse...it could explode in the intake or exhaust manifolds . Normal procedure dictates that the engine be killed by moving the mixture lever to "idle cut off"

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Also if you turn off the mags before the engine quits when you cut the mixture, someone could easily bump the propeller and the engine may start again even with the mags off, which is NOT good :rolleyes:

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Actually the battery is only used to start the car. If you disconnect the battery whilst the engine is running it will still run using the alternator. Of course if power consumption exceeds the output capacity of the alternator then problems will arise eg lights, indicators, cd etc.

Military Aircraft like the Spitfire, Bf109 etc don't have internal batteries, they use one of three methods to start, external power (power cart), hand crank or starter cartridge. Batteries in that sense are dead weight in military aircraft, extra power can be gained via generators etc.

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This is utterly and completely bullshit right? A "secret" button combination to make the Messerschmitt faster, could it really be true?? tell me, tell me, tell me, oh please tell me Von Mudra!

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What all this time you thought those pilots that shoot you down and you never seem to be able to shoot them had more skill than you?
Pfffffff
They just know more secrets.

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Lately I learnt a "loose the bogey off my tail" and "make'em burn" combo but the "fatal death of flying foes" is just finger-breaking.

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Find it for yourself, why do I have to do everything around here. <grumbles about my computer blowing up>

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I'm still amused at how many people dont know how to use tank sights D: Or shut the JU door, or open the Hanomag slits, or put down the windows in jeeps, or open the back of Trucks :P

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You can use tank sights!!!! :eek:

And here I had been reaping with the Panzer3j at the edge of my view distance using pure intuition and mad skillz! =p

I honestly only learned about the truck backs and hanomag slits recently though. :uhm:

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Can you shoot through the hanomag slits, I've tried and never had any success. (Probably really the wrong thread to ask this in).

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I've shot the driver out of a Hanomag with a Tommy Gun from the front. To tell the truth, I was was spraying all over the damn thing, hoping he'd jump out and get turned into hamburger, but he died while still inside. Whether it works or not, I still "button up" whenever I go somewhere where I expect infantry.

Also, what does "WEP" stand for? And is Mudra just bullshitting us with his "press x to go faster" thing? Isn't x the default key for gun sights in planes? Or is it the default for "Afterburner" in BF2 and "Air Brake/Stuka Siren" in FH2? I don't know because I change all my key assignments (Plus, I use a Flightstick for flying).

I'm all confused...

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War Emergency Power, basically wringing as much power out of the engine as possible. Of course, doing so wasn't encouraged (hence 'Emergency') since it drastically reduced the service life of engines and made them more prone to failure.

It was common to put wire across the throttle at the point where it would go from normal power to absolute maximum. The pilot would have to push the throttle 'through the wire', as the saying goes. The broken wire would indicate to ground crews afterwards that the engine had been pushed to its limits and needed a much more thorough check for any problems.

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What's the point of shutting the JU door anyway?