Forgotten Hope 2 Newsupdate

[Von Mudra]

Originally Posted by LIGHTNING [NL]

It's not (yet?) ingame.

Damn, you have made me sad I hope its in there for the first release, or I get to hunt u devs down one by one.


BTW, that MG34 bipod set up, orgasmic

[Kradovech]

Originally Posted by Mandingo 18''

How realistic is it that you can only fire the MG34 from prone position? I remember seeing a video of a man firing an MG42 with great accuracy while standing. And MG34 is a light machine gun. You should be able to fire it from any stance. In FH1 it was ok to nerf some weapons to prevent entire teams from being equipped by them, but in FH2 as there are class limits, it is not necessary to make weapons unrealistically weak. The class limiting will automatically ensure that not everybody will choose that particular weapon.

Great accuracy?? I've seen video of it being fired while standing, but that was from the hip and could hardly be described as accurate. So unless that video of yours is a scene from Rambo, I'd very much like to see it, a link please? Your claims are not worth anything without proof.

[Wheelman56]

Originally Posted by Kradovech

Great accuracy?? I've seen video of it being fired while standing, but that was from the hip and could hardly be described as accurate. So unless that video of yours is a scene from Rambo, I'd very much like to see it, a link please? Your claims are not worth anything without proof.

This is probably what he's talking about, the "Assault Stance":

YouTube - MG-42 Sturmfeuer: A Lesson In Assault Fire

The video claims that he's placing well-aimed short bursts up to 70 yards, but doesn't really show it. So yes it's possible, but there is no way you can move around while firing like this, and I'm not sure if BF2 can restrict movement to the point of not allowing you to move while firing.

[Kradovech]

Yup, thats the video I was referring to. Maybe he has some other video up his sleeve, because, as you pointed out, this video pretty much proves him wrong...

[Tas]

Originally Posted by McGibs

Not while in iron sights. Theyre quite slow to move. Same goes for all heavy weapons, like ATRs and the Bren.



Many many past discussions on this. Our general consensis is that the german MGs were not commonly fired from the hip (though they could be, it wasnt practical at all, and would be rare in actual combat) because they are awkward to use in that stance. And you certainly would not be able to fire it while moveing, and you wouldnt be able to sight the weapon without bipod support.
If we made it able to fire while standing, it would also be able to be fired while running, and able to be sighted while standing, both of which are very unrealistic.
So thats why its only able to fire while prone.

The Bren on the other hand is much less cumbersome and can be handled more like an automatic rifle, making it more mobile as you can fire and sight it while standing/moving. Drawback are that it has a slower rof, less ammo in mag, and slower sighting (time it takes to bring the weapon into iron sights) then the MG34, which is a better defencive weapon.

Butbut..



They are in medal of honor airborne, it's sooo realistic!

PS: put in bulletproof suit/gasmask too please.

[[79th]Sgt-D]

Mandingo is already scratching to find which weaknesses he would exploit to go ramboing/camping

Bahhhh...

french translation of these additionnal news :

Spoiler:

Informations complémentaires du 03/10/07 :
Attention : Lightning précise bien que son estimation d'une release en novembre n'est qu'une estimation, et qu'il ne sait pas réellement combien de temps va être nécessaire aux devs pour finaliser.
Il nous demande aussi de bien noter que FH2 est toujours en cours de réalisation : par exemple, les modèles de soldats allemands seront très sérieusement améliorés, mais après la première release.

Bon, quelques screenshots maintenant :

Sur cette capture d'écran vous pouvez voir notre MG34 (Maschinengewehr 34 - mitrailleuse modèle 1934). BF2 utilise des modèles différents pour les vues à la première et à la troisième personne, dans un souci d'optimisation. Le modèle à la première personne est plus détaillé que celui à la troisième personne. Dans FH2 notre MG34 mobile est approvisionnée par un chargeur-tambour d'une capacité de 50 coups.

Voici le modèle à la troisième personne. Comme vous pouvez le constater il est un peu moins détaillé. Dans FH2 la MG34 mobile ne peut être utilisée qu'allongé au sol, avec son bipode. Grâce à sa précision et à sa bonne cadence de tir, la MG34 est une arme redoutable. Pour éviter que des équipes entières ne s'arment de MG34, le kit allemand de soutien est limité sur toutes les maps.

Enfin cette capture d'écran vous montre deux choses. D'abord vous voyez le pistolet-mitrailleur Tommygun (Thompson modèle 1928) avec le chargeur droit. A la différence du chargeur "camembert" que vous avez probablement utilisé dans FH 0.7 et d'autres jeux sur la Seconde Guerre Mondiale, celui-ci ne contient que 20 cartouches de .45 ACP (11,43 mm). Bien que les deux types de chargeurs aient été employés, le chargeur de 20 coups était nettement plus commun à cette période du conflit. Notre Tommygun existe également en version 50 coups (chargeur camembert), il équipe une classe différente. La seconde chose que vous pouvez constater est que ce PM est brandi par un soldat allemand. A la différence de Battlefield 1942, les casques ne sont plus échangés quand vous ramassez un équipement ennemi. Ce soldat porte le casque colonial modèle 1940 (partiellement visible).

Enfin les développeurs espèrent pouvoir sortir un nouveau front tous les six mois à partir de la première release...

About the Tommygun, I am wondering why this model doesn't have cooling fins on the barrel?

[Green_Vietnam]

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9727/fhmg34p1qh5.jpg

Link not working?

[[79th]Sgt-D]

uh?
your link works perfectly

[Big Lebowski]

well, dosent work for me either

[Ts4EVER]

Originally Posted by Mandingo 18''

How realistic is it that you can only fire the MG34 from prone position? I remember seeing a video of a man firing an MG42 with great accuracy while standing. And MG34 is a light machine gun. You should be able to fire it from any stance.

A friend of mine is in the german army, where a slightly modernized version of the MG42 is still in use. He told me that it is hard enough to control longer firebursts while proning, so I guess firing from the hip would be next to impossible (atleast if you want to hit something).