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Stig O'Tracy November 18th, 2005 02:22 PM

Re: Accuracy of Mobile 88s
 
Maybe because the gun is mounted on a mobile platform it is slightly less accurate that on a fixed base. You do get a lot of recoil when you fire that puppy, kind of like the Sherman, which I can't hit squat with. Wouldn't that tend to reduce the range / muzzel velocity a bit?

Fuzzy Bunny November 18th, 2005 02:32 PM

Re: Accuracy of Mobile 88s
 
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Originally Posted by Stig O'Tracy
Maybe because the gun is mounted on a mobile platform it is slightly less accurate that on a fixed base. You do get a lot of recoil when you fire that puppy, kind of like the Sherman, which I can't hit squat with. Wouldn't that tend to reduce the range / muzzel velocity a bit?

No. Muzzle velocity is simply the speed at which the shot exits the barrel. For an identical weapon/round mounted on any platform, this will be the same. Range ditto.

There's not really any recoil per se transmitted to the carriage on the mobile version.

Dr.Fritz November 18th, 2005 02:51 PM

Re: Accuracy of Mobile 88s
 
They're probably less accurate because of mobility. Parking on an odd surface will move the vehicle and off goes your aim.

Shitblast November 20th, 2005 12:57 AM

Re: Accuracy of Mobile 88s
 
Good point with the AP-shell passing through light vehicles. The sherman-crews are said to have experienced this in asia. In the few armored engagements there were, american tank-crews soon shifted to HE, as their regular AP often made no more than dual 75mm vent-holes in the tincan-armor of the Ha-Go and its likes. Japanese tanks could even be taken out using a BAR with AP-munition. Back in Europe, german gunners experienced some of the same, as thinly armored western allies added to their targets. A typical WWII AP-round has a better chance of disabling a tank if it gets to disperse its energy inside instead of passing straight through.

Horrible Tank Hunter November 21st, 2005 10:37 PM

Re: Accuracy of Mobile 88s
 
Speaking of Mobile 88s, what happend to the deployable one?! I know it was not very noob friendly (took me about a month to figure out how to fire without killing myself), nor was it very mobile (had a turn radius the size of El Alamein). However, once I figured it all out it seemed alot more useful for defence,with its smaller profile, than the current one. For example on storm it was very effective when deployed on the frozen river, hiding the truck portion behind the bridge. Deploying it also seemed to keep it more steady than the current one allthough deploying on non level ground somtimes proved problematic.

(There was also the risk of having a less knowledgeable person hop in and attempt to fire the gun while you were towing it around.... resulting in 2 dead germans.:0wned: I know I was the less knowledgeable person in that situation more than once *ftk plz*)

I am no expert on the matter but I think the old style was also alot closer to the way germans moved their flak 18s around.

http://forgottenhope.bf1942files.com...owableflak.jpg
(pic taken from 2003 archives http://forgottenhope.bf1942files.com/main.php?module=archives&selectedmonth=12&selected year=2003〈=english )


Just realized I forgot to search but I am confident it has not been asked yet... What kind of mobile arty will we hope to see in FH2? Will we see any deployable arty? Or are there only plans to keep the current system for mobile arty?

SymZ November 22nd, 2005 12:10 AM

Re: Accuracy of Mobile 88s
 
I liked that old flak truck but in any other view but first person it lagged like an sob.

Fuzzy Bunny November 22nd, 2005 05:41 AM

Re: Accuracy of Mobile 88s
 
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Originally Posted by Shitblast
Good point with the AP-shell passing through light vehicles. The sherman-crews are said to have experienced this in asia.

I don't know if it's been fixed in 0.7 as I've not tried this since, or if it would even be considered a "bug", but it used to be possible to hammer people inside bunkers just by hitting the outside wall with an 88 in AA mode. The mobile 88 on Tobruk was fantastic for this--you could stay out of the firing angle of the bunker windows, and just rack up kills like a madman.

As it stands, 88s in AA mode are fantastic for wiping out infantry in confined areas such as Berlin streets. You don't even have to hit close to them--just aim at the nearest wall. If you're playing Axis, and you have reasonably competent people defending the right-hand passageway to the first flag, the 88 (maybe with 1 guy helping out) can defend the left side almost single-handedly until it runs out of ammo.


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