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Old November 5th, 2005   #1
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Unhappy WHY AGAIN NO 109Gs or F??

Granted I haven not played every map since .7 but have played almost all of them and once again a glaring omission continues. If I missed it I sincerely apologize.
Since the release of .5 many players and me have wondered why has even some rare models been made for FH but the most produced fighter plane in history is repeatedly left out. I am referring to the Bf 109G and F series. The most famous aces in history flew those type planes. The 109s used in the mod are the 109 E series and even if some are labeled as 109G series in some the maps that is lame as one would label the Russian light tank the BT 7 as a T 34. Leaving out the 109G and F series is like leaving out the Shermans in the US armor units. If moders have time to model a VW Beetle it would appear they can make some adjustment to the 109E series and make it into the 109G. Is that model really that much harder to make??



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Once again the obvious answer is we are just humans and humans need to sleep, have family and need to work to pay the bills. About the selection of vehicles we add don't go by that way, vehicles like the VW and others are the dinstinctive touch of our mod and what makes it diferent of mainstream mods and games. Of course a BF109G could be developed for FH2, but not if you flame our beloved original vehicles

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Default Re: WHY AGAIN NO 109Gs or F??

It is indeed a bit a shame.

But what's more of an issue is that the Bf109E is still used in late-war maps, and not replaced with the Fw190A, which is in the mod (in the Bombing the Reich map) and is more appropriate to the late war maps. Don't understand that decision.
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Ok seriously this is just getting tiresome now. If the devs modelled every single variety of vehicle in WW2 (You can justify the modelling of literally 1000s upon 1000s of weapons of war for a WW2 mod), well you'd need a team of thousands. There are currentely some variants of the 109 in FH, equipped with different weapons according to the theatre and time of the battle.

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If the moders have time to model a VW Beetle it would appear they can make some adjustment to the 109E series and make it into the 109G.

I dislike being rude to people but I'm strugling not to be an absolute dick to you. That is a single sentence epitomises the kind of attitude many people have on these forums and I'm starting to realise that the devs must get seriously pissed off by comments like that. One of the main reasons I love FH is that it not only has many new tanks, planes etc. but it also has other kinds of non essential vehicles. From the Bedford truck to the Sampan to the VW Beetle. They give FH so much character and atmosphere like no other mod or game I can think of.

I could whine endlessly about why the Valentine mark 9 isn't in game or the valentine mark 11. Oh well ...
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Leaving out the 109G and F series is like leaving out the Shermans in the US armor units. If moders have time to model a VW Beetle it would appear they can make some adjustment to the 109E series and make it into the 109G. Is that model really that much harder to make??
If you don't think it's that hard you should create your own mod or minimod for FH and change it the way you like it, not take it out on the devs for being human.

In my opinion i'd rather have 10 different planes then 10 different versions of a the same plane.
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Default Re: WHY AGAIN NO 109Gs or F??

FH has some of the best modellers but IIRC there are more modellers than skinners and there is a endless list of vehicles that still need to be done.

Some of the modellers perform double duty and model and skin their own products so it takes that much longer. Then we have the likes of Rad and Lobo who are perfectionists which means it takes longer but we get a amazing quality model.

Can anyone say they didnt say "Wow!" the first time they saw the PzIII Rad obsessed with or Lobo's beautiful P-51D on Hell Of Bocage map?

In the end we try to give you the best product we can. Unfortuantely you dont all speak with one voice so we cant always get out what everyone wants.
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just stop bitchin and be happy with what you got

I was stupid enough, despite several warnings, to get my self banned. First I was generally rude in a thread, which got me temp banned. Then I came back with another account just so I could post in vengeance against one of the moderators . And that upgraded my temp-ban to a permanent ban.
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Can anyone say they didnt say "Wow!" the first time they saw the PzIII Rad obsessed with or Lobo's beautiful P-51D on Hell Of Bocage map?
That skin (Big Beautifull Doll mustang) is not mine, was done by Mange, it was a mytic skin in the BF42 moding community because it's pretty and the first one done by a moder with shiny effect. Right before the release I realized that texture was not in the mod and I added it in our Bocage.

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[/size]I dislike being rude to people but I'm strugling not to be an absolute dick to you. .
I make a simple logical question and uniformed ***** start flaming. Typical ! When one can't counter facts in an arugment then the loser will start to attack the individual. It was several updates previous to .7 were we told that "Jackal " aka "Evil_Sardine" had skinned the 109G and they stated "it was as good as anything in the great air sim "IL- 2 series" (that is very a impressive statement) also stating "it would be in the next release". I posted those details in the Planet Battlefield forum to help recruit FH players. So I ask why the 109G never made it? Very simple question. I have played the mod since .5 and IMO It is the best mod ever made for any game. The Panzer III finally made it into the mod - a vey good job indeed-but there was constant "bitching" about its absence for a hell of a long time.There was already a crap load of panzer variants in the mod so why bother with a Pz III in .7 when it could have waited for FH 2? One wonders if the "bitching" made it happen?



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Ok boys, take it easy. Jackal did the model but it was not skined. Next time post your concern politely and you will see nobody complains

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