WHY AGAIN NO 109Gs or F??

[[tR]Mad Mac]

Originally Posted by Lt Luger

I make a simple logical question and uniformed ***** start flaming. Typical ! When one can't counter facts in an arugment then the loser will start to attack the individual. It was several updates previous to .7 were we told that "Jackal " aka "Evil_Sardine" had skinned the 109G and they stated "it was as good as anything in the great air sim "IL- 2 series" (that is very a impressive statement) also stating "it would be in the next release". I posted those details in the Planet Battlefield forum to help recruit FH players. So I ask why the 109G never made it? Very simple question. I have played the mod since .5 and IMO It is the best mod ever made for any game. The Panzer III finally made it into the mod - a vey good job indeed-but there was constant "bitching" about its absence for a hell of a long time.There was already a crap load of panzer variants in the mod so why bother with a Pz III in .7 when it could have waited for FH 2? One wonders if the "bitching" made it happen?

Take it easy, there is no need for the attitude...

[Mp5-Killa]

Originally Posted by Lt Luger

I make a simple logical question and uniformed ***** start flaming. Typical ! When one can't counter facts in an arugment then the loser will start to attack the individual. It was several updates previous to .7 were we told that "Jackal " aka "Evil_Sardine" had skinned the 109G and they stated "it was as good as anything in the great air sim "IL- 2 series" (that is very a impressive statement) also stating "it would be in the next release". I posted those details in the Planet Battlefield forum to help recruit FH players. So I ask why the 109G never made it? Very simple question. I have played the mod since .5 and IMO It is the best mod ever made for any game. The Panzer III finally made it into the mod - a vey good job indeed-but there was constant "bitching" about its absence for a hell of a long time.There was already a crap load of panzer variants in the mod so why bother with a Pz III in .7 when it could have waited for FH 2? One wonders if the "bitching" made it happen?

If you took offence to what I posted - I apologise. I'm sure the devs want constructive critisism - that's great. If you reread your post you will see why people took offence from your post. I wasn't flaming you and I am not an uninformed **** thank you very much. It's demanding, rude and there is no politeness in it at all.

As for you pointing out that there were a load of panzer varaints in the mod, well the Panzer III was Germany main medium tank from 1940 - 43 (Although in 43 it was getting phased out) and was therefore a very important tank for a WW2 mod. If you look at the mod now, there are panzer IIIs in almost all 1940-43 maps - that is why the Panzer III was modelled. In fact I'm hoping for even more Panzer III variants for earlier war maps.

[Anlushac11]

There were PzIII's present in Normandie and PzIIIM's at Arnhem.

IIRC there were still around 67 still listed as active in West in May 1945.

True it was no longer the main tank, as the PzIV-H/J and Panther replaced it.

[Bikewer]

Considering the "flight model" of BF aircraft, I have a hard time imagining any real difference. The flight characteristics of all these aircraft are not even close to being modelled...I, for one, don't really care what the thing looks like.
There are excellent dedicated WWII flightsims where you can fly variation after variation of all sorts of aircraft to your heart's content, all accurately modeled as to weaponry, flight characteristics, and so forth.
I forget how many 109 variations are in the IL-2-Forgotten battles set now; it's a lot.

[Spike1]

Originally Posted by Spike1

But what's more of an issue is that the Bf109E is still used in late-war maps, and not replaced with the Fw190A, which is in the mod (in the Bombing the Reich map) and is more appropriate to the late war maps. Don't understand that decision.

No-one care to comment on this point?

[MG42Maniac]

There is a 109G in some maps in FH. Its on Kasserine Pass , Bocage , Bombing the Reich & Supercharge. It has a nose mounted 30mm cannon ( way underpowered in game though) and two MG's in the nose. It also performs better than the 109E.

Here is a pic of it here:

Granted it does not look like a 109G and all the devs have probobly done is renamed the object tweaked the armament and handling but it is still in.

[Lt Luger]

That picture above proves my point. That is a model of the Bf 109E inspite of the label saying it is a 109G. Like I said in my inital post one could label the Russian ligth tank the BT 7 as a T 34 and assign properties of the T34 but that Still does Not make that model/skin look like a T34.

[LIGHTNING [NL]]

Originally Posted by Lt Luger

That picture above proves my point. That is a model of the Bf 109E inspite of the labelas a 109G. Like I said in my inital post one could label the Russian ligth tank the BT 7 as a T 34 and assign properties of the T34 but that Still does nOT make that model/skin a T34.

No, the differences between the 109E and G are minimal, it would not be worth making a completely new model, just for some changes in looks. It's either an edited 109E, or nothing at all.

Though I do expect to see seperate models for the E and G in FH2.

[Lt Luger]

Originally Posted by LIGHTNING [NL]

No, the differences between the 109E and G are minimal, it would not be worth making a completely new model, just for some changes in looks. It's either an edited 109E, or nothing at all.

Though I do expect to see seperate models for the E and G in FH2.

The difference between and E and G certainly were not minimal and its not worth getting into at this time because now it is irrelevant as that is the past. The focus turns towards the FH 2 release which I believe will be turned into another great job by the FH team

[Dr.Fritz]

Originally Posted by Lt Luger

That is a model of the Bf 109E inspite of the label saying it is a 109G.

The label says its simply a Bf 109. Like someone's post above "just be happy with what you got". Thats my two cents.