Blood in FH2?
 

Is there going to be any blood or gore in FH2?

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im not sure, but i only support blood and gore if its realistic, not like a grenade goes off 2ft away from someone and they're head flys off

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I agree. Blood and gore is a nice element but I'd rather see realistic ragdoll effects. The current BF2 ragdoll effects are horrible; the players suddenly go spinning around when they get hit. I'd rather see a head roll back and the ragdoll collapse.

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not as much as in you signature :uhm:

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Personally, I hope so.

I think that in some country's it isn't allowed, seeing bodyparts fly all over the place (would be fun to see it, but then again I'm Dutch :D )

Cheers!

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Blood? Yes please aslong as it isn't Quake III style but ragdoll effects and realistic blood effects would be sweet! :D

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Actually I think FH already has the most realistic simulation of gore.


Practically none at all...


Movies and video games especially tend to exaggerate the gore slightly. Blood for example would rarly leave the boodys porimiter as it would generally be sucked up by the uniform. And a body would only rarly be torn apart and only under extreme conditions.
A dircet artillery shell would be such an example. Grenades and more distance explosion would probably just toss it in one direction...

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Hmmmm, maybe when your fellowgamer is blown to bits. You can pick up his arm and go bananas on the enemy's head with it. See it as the new noob-stick :naughty:

Johnny: Be careful, there are some AP-mines here. Watch your step.
DeadNoob: What, you sa.... *click* uhoh *great explosion with DeadNoob flying in bits around the field, covering Johnny in buckets of blood en bodyparts*

Dönitz (AP-mine) DeadNoob

Dönitz: LOL

Johnny: WTF??? DeadNoob???? U noob!!!!!!!!! *hey, DeadNoob his arm, hey dönitz*

Johnny (arm) Dönitz

-edit- Sorry, I just couldn't resist :lol:

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rofl. I guess Dönitz is just standing in fron of your doo to kill you with his knockwurst!!!!
:D

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im dark haired and i didnt get it!

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Roflmao Donitz. that would be histerical to see in game. It might even top

"bAdMaN(Johnson)Your mom"

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Dude you got some cool fantasice :0wned: ...
i would love to kill somwone with donitz arm :naughty: !
just imagine,
Firt Teamkill donitz with a handgranat or a other big peace of explosives, than take cover ..wait until he explode...than take of his arm,
and Smack a german soldier on his head..
[nl]-=Invincible=-[nl] (Millsgranate)Großadmiral Dönitz
[nl]-=Invincible=-[nl] (Dönitz) ] \Noobdude/

well thats one of my dreams.....

No hard feelings dönitz:smokin:

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:lol::lol::lol:
PS: Hey Donitz (sorry too lazy to bring up character map for the umlat), why does your siggy say PetetheGreat on it now? Did he deface it or something? If so, I say you should steal his donut as a form of revenge.

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This thread is going nowhere fast. Lets try and stay on topic.


I am in favor of blood as long as it stays at the current FH levels (but works). Excessive blood/gibs is unnecessary.

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I would like to see Blood instead of the Hitcounter. So you can only imagine if you Hit, when you see the blood...

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Yeah, rifle bullets aren't going to be exploding bodies or tear off limbs or anything -- though I saw some gruesome looking head wounds in some WWII hospital footage.

You don't need a direct arty hit to maim people -- shrapnel from shells will tear people up and can scythe threw limbs. I saw some video of a mortar attack (I think it was in Sarajevo) and there were pools of blood all over the place -- looked like a horror movie.

A uniform will soak up some blood. The amount of blood evident is going to depend on whether the wound is bleeding internally or externally, how the body falls, the direction of blood flow in relation to the body, and the absorbancy of the surface that the body is on; you get an artery torn open where you're bleeding externally and a non absorbent surface like a street and blood will leak out all over the place, and quickly. The average human body has about 1.24 U.S. gallons of blood (4.7 liters). I'm not sure how much blood you can lose before heart failure, but I think it's around 40%-50%--that's a fair amount of blood that can escape.

But after all that, I personally don't need to see people bleeding out to enjoy my game.

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The problem with that is that because of the hit detection system, you can have the blood effect without actually getting the hit, not sure how it is in BF2 tho, so maybe it's possible there, but I'm not sure if I'd like that.

About the main subject, I don't think FH needs more blood than it already has, most hits look prefectly realistic, the only time it feels wrong (as far as I can recall right now) is when you hit someone right in the stomach with a tank gun and they just take their hands to their chests and fall in their knees :lol:, but that's only BF1942s fault.

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I agree, it's a nice feature but doesn't need to be overdone.

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Them 50 cal's could do rip off a limb though couldnt they? :naughty:

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He's right, sorry for going off topic. But I just coulnd't resist.

Blood in, gore out.

Cheers!

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Blood Umm hows this going to make gameplay better, I would rather more work go into skins!

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i think it would make it visualy better and funner, i dont know i jsut love seeing games with gore like SOF haha now thats some crazy shit.

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I'm for blood effects and some gore as long as it's appropriate. A grwnade is not going to blow a leg off in most cases unless it's right under the person. Even then maybe just a foot.

Artillery does no decapitate in most cases, all it will do is send you flying a few feet (not several miles like in BF2 Vanilla) and fill you with shrapnel. To do that we need realistic weight to the characters and realistic force values for explosions and such.

Bullets should produce decals on bodies in the form of wounds. Maybe even some blood on the ground. But nothing extreme. If it's done, make it subtle. I don't want to be walking in a bloodbath by the time 5 minutes has passed. Again, realistic ragdolls are key. And they are possible with some edits to the physics engine. And for gosh sake, when a guy dies, leave his equipment on him. He shouldn't just magically undress out of his "kit" and leave it it some bag. All his gear should stay on.

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i think he should drop the weapon he was holding, such as they do in most FPS. or you can have a thing where you strip the guy, but it takes like 5 seconds to do so.

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If you get shot in the throat there should be blood shooting up:)

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Blood should only spurt up if you hit the artery, which is quite unlikely and differnt collision zones just for arteries are practically impossible. I think most of your ideas are simply too much work and not worth the effort. I say just leave it the way it is.

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Instead of "raytracing" every bullet, the effect, together with a lot, if not all, others could, and perhaps should, be simulated with probability.

Random number generator + a set threshold for an event to happen, and an equation to get the right distribution of outcomes.

It could for instance mean that a Boys-ATR could knock out a KT every one billion shots at the front armour, while a KT could hit a sherman straight on in the rear from 0m, and nothing would happen every one out of a hundred thousand shots.

I believe that a system based on probability would simulate freak events better than a fully "raytraced"-system, because that "raytraced" system would have a set of rules it could not deviate from, and those rules would be written by people. Also the probability system would be very processor efficient, compared to the alternative.

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oh yeah--get hit by a fifty cal and you're done for. I was reading an interview with an old U.S. tanker and he said they had a German soldier surrender to their tank platoon, and they didn't have anyone to leave him with, so one guy made the guy stand up against a wall, and then he fired one round from his 50 and pretty much took the poor guy's head off.

I also had a friend who was assigned to an amphibious assault ship back in the mid 80s (think it was the u.s.s. guam) and he said they'd take old 50 cal ammo and fire it off when they were at sea -- they'd throw garbage over board and when sharks would surface they'd shoot them and it would just blow big chunks out of them.

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I could see that happening considering the fact that it's a half inch diameter rifle cartridge being fired at a rate of 550rpm.
If there were to be any blood or gore, please do whateveryone else said; keep the blood at a realistic level, and if you get hit with an artillery shell or get blown up in some method, please no (or not much) dismemberment. If I wanted it to be that real, I'd go back in time and fight it myself.

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there is dismemberment in real life, stepping on a mine can blow your leg off. if a nade land right beside your foot, you can probably say good bye to your foot, and i think if an arty shell lands right on your or right next to you, your not gonna be walking home.

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?? :eek: No one else finds that strange? What's the point of shooting at the sharks? Just for target practice? Kind of inhumane.

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Probably done before they were considered "protected" as a species.

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This is what I thing,

must: Its well cr*p with out it.
need: the game feels empty with out it but still a geat game
bonus: very nice to have it but don't care if it dosent have it.

war games need blood & gore to feel non arcade but its got to be realistic, what I mean is when you shoot some one and theres a thick blood sprite in front of him where you shot him is not realistic in any way. Gore has got to have body impacts[flesh wounds;) ] thats a must! As for arms/legs/head and bits flying off thats not a must its a bonus, lol. blood stanes on the ground/rocks/vehicles/buildings/objects/etc: its a need. blood mist which is a light transprant sprite is a need. When your walking around a battle ground you don't see clean walls/babwire/bodies/ground/objects/vehicles you see bodies with flesh wounds covered in blood vehicles with smashed windows blood everywhere and dead bodies in side them blood splashed up walls and on crates & boxs etc: bloody babwire. lol, thats not a cus:uhm: .

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Not only inhumane but full of shite.

What tales of chum-dookie is your friend telling you?

First of all; when it's time to dump trash they get every available deck-hand they can muster; starting with Seaman Apprentice and going up as needed. I assure you people are not sitting around with weapons ready to take out sharks.

It's a pretty big deal by all involved when weapons and ammo come out to play; there's no way their sitting around during trash dump time locked and loaded.

One thing I can't be sure of is whether or not sharks appear during trash-dumping time at all. If and when this 'event of sharks appearing' took place the ship is always going at a good clip as they dump it, so even if sharks appeared (which I have never witnessed and I've been in the Aluetian and South Pacific) during trash time they'd be long past the trash.

Your friend is feeding you some fast ones.

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Those military men have alot of time on there hands to do useless crap and pranks ive seen it videos of crap like that in Irag and Afghanistan and it probably happen at sea. I dont think they kill sharks all the time and it seems like every one in these threads are war mongers and know it alls its sort of pathetic that smart people like yourself game it so hard.

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I'm the farthest from a know it all sorts 'Keyboard Muscles'; I'm speaking purely on experience and not some video I watched. I never profess to speak the gospel; only what I know.

That being said, someone crap in your cereal this morning or are you just here to make friends?

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No, idea if he's bs'ing me-- I've known the guy for about 15 years and he's not a big bullshitter, but I wasn't in the Navy back in the mid 80's, and more particularly, I wasn't on that particular ship at that particular moment, so no idea. I think IF it happened it was a one time occurence -- I don't know. What I do know is that I have seen a lot of things in my time that weren't "by the book." My family is a military family and we have plenty of stories where things weren't "by the book." My friend Greg told me about this sometime ago, so I'm hazy on the details. I think he said they had some old 50 ammo aboard and someone made the decision to fire it off. Kind of presumptuous to say something never happened though.

As far as being cruel, yeah, I wouldn't be blasting sharks for the hell of it.

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Too true Ace. Too ture.

At that given moment? Who knows what happen's right? Again; I've 'been there - done that' and was speaking from experience. Not being there, on that ship, at that time is a fact, although I find it a bizarre tale. Maybe there's more detail or mitigating circumstances to it than we know?

One things for certain; why kill sharks for the fun of it. :(

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Yeah, this is off topic, but we think of sharks as fearsome killers, but on average, I think they kill 30 people a year worldwide, and we kill millions of them. Kind of puts it in perspective.

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Don't we just all love political correctness!?!

Soldier do what soldiers can do. They are just like us with a bigger opportunity to have fun with neater toys. A good CO would turn his head if a few shennanigans raised the morale of his crew.

I knew a sailor who turned the gain up on an ECM radar, knowing full well that it would blow out Joe Civilian's radar on his fishing boat. Oohhpps!!

Of course it's not right but that stuff happens.

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Our CO was a (Insert Derogatory word). He ruled with an Iron Fist. Even the Officers hated this guy (who he refused to dine with).

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Top of the food chain buddy! Plus its not like its a waste think of the smiles it brought to the smaller fish that those sharks would normaly be eating. Now they get to eat the sharks. :bows: Wait............Fish can't smile.....Forget that..

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Thats cause we have 50 cals. Sharks don't....I doubt any sharks are posting on some forum saying "Holy crap! :eek: Makeral kill 0 of us every year and we kill millions of them....Kinda puts things in perspective." :D

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Yeah, that's not fair. You know what sharks need? Friggin' "lasers".

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LAZER EYES!!!!!11




thatd be jawsome. (shutup. its 4 am and Im moving in 3 hours)