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Old May 20th, 2005   #1
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Default Stealing Tanks is not Base Camping!

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I know you lot are going to slate me for this post, but I have to complain. Yesterday I was playing a really brilliant map Falaise Pocket I was the axis if I don’t mind saying racking up a massive score, anyway I decided to grab a geep and “liberate” a tank from the allied base. (Boooo I hear you say), once I liberated the tank I drove out the base and back into the centre… anyway about 1 min later someone wined “SpasticRetardGimp (me) is base camping kick him” so I got kicked. Why?

I loaded back into the game, and asked why, and someone said stealing tanks from un-capture-able surmounts to camping, and you get kicked.

Is it b*llox, I was in there base for 1 min, I didn’t shoot anyone so how is it deemed camping?



Someone should really clarify these rules, and if so code them into the game. I hate wingers (I know the irony of me complaining about wingers when in fact I am winging).
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Old May 20th, 2005   #2
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Default Re: Stealing Tanks is not Base Camping!

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I know you lot are going to slate me for this post, but I have to complain. Yesterday I was playing a really brilliant map Falaise Pocket I was the axis if I don’t mind saying racking up a massive score, anyway I decided to grab a geep and “liberate” a tank from the allied base. (Boooo I hear you say), once I liberated the tank I drove out the base and back into the centre… anyway about 1 min later someone wined “SpasticRetardGimp (me) is base camping kick him” so I got kicked. Why?

I loaded back into the game, and asked why, and someone said stealing tanks from un-capture-able surmounts to camping, and you get kicked.

Is it b*llox, I was in there base for 1 min, I didn’t shoot anyone so how is it deemed camping?



Someone should really clarify these rules, and if so code them into the game. I hate wingers (I know the irony of me complaining about wingers when in fact I am winging).
One minute later you say? And only because some-one said you basecamped? Thats not right.. if this happened on WOLF please PM me so we can straighten this out.

And you are right.. stealing a vehicle is not basecamping.. unless of course you drive a couple of laps around the base, going out of your way to kill people there. You should know that its hard for some-one looking at the minimap to see what you are doing.. stealing or camping. So unless they spectate/switch teams they have no real grounds to kick you unless they see alot of "you[M10]randomalliedplayer" messages in a row.

As for codin rules into the game.. its not going to happen, different servers with different rules atract different players. Perhaps stealing was not allowed on the server you were playing on.

Again.. if this happened on wolf please PM me.

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Default Re: Stealing Tanks is not Base Camping!

If you're not familiar with the server, ask what the rule is on that sort of thing. Some servers allow anything, some allow for quick "smash & grabs", and some prohibit any entry into the main base (or even the grid square it occupies)

It is your responsibility to know the server rules when you play.
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Default Re: Stealing Tanks is not Base Camping!

ugh, that's a pathetic scenario.
Hence my bitter hatred of anti basecamping mods and no basecamping rules, in general.

Let people play the entire map, be done with it.

A map like Falaise Pocket is not all that conducive to camping anyway, that rear Allied spawn by the Church, where the M10 is, is wide open, the spawn points well spread out, there are no repair pads in the map at all, someone even attempting to camp there with the M10 (and it's lack of a machine gun) would not last too long anyway. In the mean time, some lone foot soldier has problably snuck off to the north to take a flag anyway.

Liberating vehicles is a wonderful tactic. Can't be done on many of the newer custom maps, due to them being locked, but I fully endorse it.

Is it the scrolling message on the Dead Meat server "We use the entire map, spawncamping is allowed"? I love that.

It's not encouraged, but it is allowed on the VSFGamers server as well. Fight your way out, grab some flags, and camp them back.
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That exact scenario happened to me on the tdb server..


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Default Re: Stealing Tanks is not Base Camping!

The worst case I've seen was in battle of bulge playing allied. The server admins were playing on axis side and using stolen Sherman Jumbo. I sneak in axis base and "liberate" (as you cleverly put it) one Pz IV H (yes not Tiger II) and minute or two later the admins shout it choir "no stealing tanks!" and I get kicked from the server.

Surely borrowing PzIVH is much more worse than borrowing Sherman Jumbo... Well it just clearly demonstrates how some servers in GERMANY are administrated...

What comes to baseraping... It is always pretty hilarious to get blamed for baseraping when youre waiting in tank near a CAPPABLE flag for infantry back-up...
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Default Re: Stealing Tanks is not Base Camping!

Wow, that's really lame.

Stealing tanks from the enemy base that is. That was a well deserved kick.


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Yes lame as hell. You deserved the kick!

Another reason why tanks should be locked to the enemy team.
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Default Re: Stealing Tanks is not Base Camping!

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Originally Posted by TonyBlair
General whine -

I know you lot are going to slate me for this post, but I have to complain. Yesterday I was playing a really brilliant map Falaise Pocket I was the axis if I don’t mind saying racking up a massive score, anyway I decided to grab a geep and “liberate” a tank from the allied base. (Boooo I hear you say), once I liberated the tank I drove out the base and back into the centre… anyway about 1 min later someone wined “SpasticRetardGimp (me) is base camping kick him” so I got kicked. Why?

I loaded back into the game, and asked why, and someone said stealing tanks from un-capture-able surmounts to camping, and you get kicked.

Is it b*llox, I was in there base for 1 min, I didn’t shoot anyone so how is it deemed camping?



Someone should really clarify these rules, and if so code them into the game. I hate wingers (I know the irony of me complaining about wingers when in fact I am winging).
You know, its your own fault that you got kicked. You did something really stupid and you got kicked.

Let me explain it to you:

It doesnt matter what you steal its just that...

YOU DONT HAVE A DAMN REASON TO BE THERE.

Well now, that wasnt so difficult, or was it?

And like Cologne said, this is ANOTHER reason why every vehicle with weapons should be locked for the enemy.

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"You mean besides pacifism, dude?"
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Default Re: Stealing Tanks is not Base Camping!

I wonder -In real war did anyone use the other forces vehicles? Did they know how to drive the enemy vehicles? I am of the opinion if you can make it to the base in one piece have at it.
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