Its camping because you are in the other teams uncapturable base! No matter what the reason is, that is always (on any good server) considered camping. The only exception is if you were shot down over their base, in which case the proper thing to do is take out your knife and run towards a car or truck and get the hell out as fast as possible.
The fact that you were taking an armored fighting vehicle, any AFV, doesn't help either. If I was the admin of that server, you would have been kicked right off. That is, if it was substanciated. Admins should never base their decisions off of one person, especially when it involves a kick or ban.
Mash, its not a fear, it is a loathing. We hate campers so because we know they suck so bad, their only way to kill more than they are killed is to shoot people when they spawn, especially in stolen vehicles.
Butterpants: YES! The Germans did this very often. Here are some good examples:
Captured T-34/76
Model of captured S35 tank, renamed Pzr. 739(f)
Germam SU-85
Captured German M3 Lee
Soviet Panther Ausf. A used in Poland, 1945
Panther put into British service
I also suppose that the Panzer 35(t) and 38(t) could be called captured equipment. They never got the lost that Tczech T in the designation.
A Storch liason and recon plane in (obviously) British service in Italy
The 83rd Infantry Division earned special fame for their use of captured equipment. They used German tanks, trucks, and weaponry. But it did not stop there! When they captured a lightly damaged Bf-109G, they repaired her and but the bird back into service. They even found someone to fly it!
And of course if five people "spawned" near your tank while you were "just dropping by for a vehicle", you wouldn't harm any of them, right?
My best camping story comes from Eve of Destruction. My brother, the world's biggest base camper, was in the enemy base and "on his way back out". It took him over a minute to get out, and while "on his way out", he killed a dozen 'bots that "spawned" there until he got shot himself.
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Surely borrowing PzIVH is much more worse than borrowing Sherman Jumbo... Well it just clearly demonstrates how some servers in GERMANY are administrated...
Dumbass! Geez, they clearly said that they just borrowed it. Of course they'd go into your base and put them back after they were done with them.
Some people nowadays... (Joking).
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You people and your fear of campers.
Fear of campers? Most base campers I encounter are beginners who get shot instantly. Not much to be afraid of.
Look, here's the deal: If you're on a server which allows/encourages base camping, do it all you want. I don't complain on those servers when someone does it. But if you're on a server which doesn't allow base-camping or any of that kind of "shady" gaming, don't do it.
Obviously that's really hard to get for "some people", as there have to be "anti-camping circles of death" around bases and locked vehicles (which I really hate - if I shoot the driver or drivers of a truck in the middle of the battle field I prefer to be able to use that truck rather than blow it up or wait for the enemy to re-claim it) to keep people from doing it on servers where it's not allowed.
Most maps are very delicately balanced and stealing a vehicle can drasticly change the tide of the game.
For example, if the allies steal the King Tiger in Bulge there's absolutely no way to kill it if the driver knows what he's doing. Sure. If some axis moron leaves it on the field - go ahead, but stealing the tank from a base you are not supposed to be in the first place is the next assholeish thing one can do after teamkilling.
If you were meant to go in the enemy base, the flag would be cappable.
I don't like some asshole ruining the game for everyone. That's why there are rules for the server. Same thing as with teamkilling. It may be fun for the teamkiller, but is not for the people in the other end of the barrel. That's why there are rules prohibiting it.
Sure, if the server allows it, I don't mind. That's because I won't be playing on servers like that, though.
However, when I'm admining - enter the enemy base on purpose and you're out.
Here is a provocative question for you guys to dicuss...
Does sniping constitute camping? How about sitting in the base, and acting as a spy? Is it alright to teamkill a camper (on a no camping server) if that smacktard's actions are killing the game?
Sniping is difficult, the chances are you will kill some-one before he starts moving is slim. Its not a major disruption, as snipers cannot destroy vehicles either.
Sitting in a base, spying, is ok in my book. I allow people to enter uncaps as long as they dont kill anyone, it doesnt happen alot. But a friendly sniper spotted for me from the windmill in OMG a few times.. nothing wrong with that imo.
If you have to tk a allied smacktard, perhaps you should find another server that does have admins
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No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he means.
A good sniper can be one hell of a disruption, trust me. Put me on in good cover on the highlands west of the German airbase on Alpenfestung, and USAAF bombers can fly pretty much undisrupted by AA guns.
In vanilla, a sniper can take out a vehicle. It would take me about five round to off a Jeep, and ten to twelve to get a fighter. Of course, you have to hit the engine every shot.
Sometimes, the admins might just be busy. I had to that on WOLF I think only once, but on other servers several times. When the guy bitches about me to the admins (for some reason, 'OMG TKR!' gets more attention than 'Admins, we have a camper issues...') I just tell the guys what that player was doing, and more often than not he gets kicked.
Well.. sniping people from AA guns isnt the same as blowing up the same AA guns, and every other vehicle in the base, wich is what basecampers tend to do.. and Snipers are easy to track down.
Get in an apc and drive around, stop every now and then and wait till you hear rifle shots. then is a simple thing to move in for the kill.
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Originally Posted by George Bernard Shaw
No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he means.
What about someone sitting their uncappable with a Priest or Wespe or the like, by some standards in this thread, he'd have no fear of distruction, as no one could go back there and destroy him. That's purely silly. Go in there and blast him. Destroy everything in site, then head back out and take some flags.
Is it supposed to be assumed that the enemy is more vulnerable at the uncappable than any other flag? Hell no they're not, so what's the big deal?
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Re: Stealing Tanks is not Base Camping! 
Re: Stealing Tanks is not Base Camping! 
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... (Joking).
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