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ace-of-spades February 17th, 2005 02:55 PM

2 ideas
 
dont know if they have been discused)2 very dif. ideas

Hirshima map-abomb :)
dukw

http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/vehicles/truckamph6x6.jpg

myrkul_8 February 17th, 2005 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ace-of-spades
Hirshima map-abomb :)

Im actually workin on and Atomic bomb for my minimod

Cuttooth February 17th, 2005 03:02 PM

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Wow, I'll be looking forward to your minimod. But just one question. Wouldn't a huge explosion cause a really huge amount of lag (even if it is near the end of a round)?

Clousseau February 17th, 2005 03:10 PM

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LOL an abomb

myrkul_8 February 17th, 2005 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuttooth
Wow, I'll be looking forward to your minimod. But just one question. Wouldn't a huge explosion cause a really huge amount of lag (even if it is near the end of a round)?

Well it might do. Testing will show :)
Cuz it prolly gonn blow up 4 areas. Etc B1 B2 C1 C2 on the map so its a huge explosion. I only think it will cause lag if theres alot of vehicles and other destroyable objects in the area...

Sputty February 17th, 2005 03:17 PM

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What would be the point of a nuclear weapon? Sounds like an overly easy map on the American side that has no real point in a mod

The only situation where nuclear weapons would fit would be in a Cold War mod based on the hypothetical situation of a breakout of war in Europe, and then it would be tactical nukes

myrkul_8 February 17th, 2005 03:22 PM

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The point is that it gonn be included in maps like el alamein so you cant take out all the forces at once and it might gonn take out ALOT of your own troops too if you dont use it correctly

Cuttooth February 17th, 2005 03:25 PM

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Nuke..on.. El Alamein...! And I thought a Stuka with a 1000kg bomb was the max in huge destruction!

Montoya February 17th, 2005 03:30 PM

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I don't think a map that recreates vaporising 500,000 unarmed japanese civilians is quite in the spirit of FH.:uhm:

Pornska February 17th, 2005 03:31 PM

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Hmm perhaps you can make a test site map of it?try to find someone way to remove the axis,from that map or just give them no spawn..
Then make a couple of bunkers and buildings to make it look like a test site to test your Abomb on..:D

ace-of-spades February 17th, 2005 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by amaccann
I don't think a map that recreates vaporising 500,000 unarmed japanese civilians is quite in the spirit of FH.:uhm:

yeah but itll be fun has hell!

Scope02 February 17th, 2005 05:24 PM

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Game starts
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org...es/b29-002.jpg
first 2 mins, everyevery1 is in a b-29
http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/ftp/IMAGES/...sonian/b29.gif
next 5 mins US is playing with the toys on the b-29, then one pushes the bomb button....
http://pauling.library.oregonstate.e...umn16-bomb.jpg
BOOOOOOOMMM!!! fortunately, no one was on the japanese team....

instead lets just have a pow camp raid where Mucci and his rangers rescue 105 PoWs from a Jap camp

Major Hartmann February 17th, 2005 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ace-of-spades
yeah but itll be fun has hell!

Seriously, you should visit a mental hospital. There are few sane people around who would call killing 500k people fun.

ace-of-spades February 17th, 2005 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Major Hartmann
Seriously, you should visit a mental hospital. There are few sane people around who would call killing 500k people fun.

its a video game!!! i wouldnt find it amusing in real life!!!!:mad:

Scope02 February 17th, 2005 05:36 PM

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amen to that.. seriously dont think killing thousands of innocent lives is much fun in a game

myrkul_8 February 17th, 2005 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Major Hartmann
Seriously, you should visit a mental hospital. There are few sane people around who would call killing 500k people fun.

-Censured by myrkul-? :naughty:http://forums.filefront.com/images/s...rcastic%29.gif

Lol maybe it was a bit offensive http://forums.filefront.com/images/s...rcastic%29.gif

ace-of-spades February 17th, 2005 05:37 PM

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lol

:eek: id edit that!!!

myrkul_8 February 17th, 2005 05:40 PM

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Hell why I can say my opinion if I'd like to? Even tho it was a joke there isnt any rules saying that I cant write that? It aint really racism if thats what ur thinking about...

ace-of-spades February 17th, 2005 05:53 PM

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im not flamin i agrea its just a joke its just admins might not like the g word:(

myrkul_8 February 17th, 2005 06:02 PM

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im not flamin i agrea its just a joke its just admins might not like the g word[img]images/smilies/sad%20%28frown%29.gif[/img]

Yea that http://forums.filefront.com/images/smilies/so.gif

USMA2010 February 17th, 2005 06:05 PM

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Ace of Spades, you are pretty twisted...

You demented signature image ain't helping either.

myrkul_8 February 17th, 2005 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by [11PzG] USMA2010
Ace of Spades, you are pretty twisted...

You demented signature image ain't helping either.


Yea it could give small kids suicidal or homocidal thoughts... Going around and killing the others kids in their school with their grandpars mg42! Christ what have you done AoS! http://forums.filefront.com/images/smilies/laugh5.gif

terminal-strike February 17th, 2005 06:12 PM

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i think nukes are fine, maybe not hiroshima but elsewhere. However, I dont think the hiroshima suggestion can be critize though because quite frankly its not anyworese then a entire game/mod thats goal is to re-create one of the most tragic and damging events ever to happen- ww2 itself.

Its not even like reading about- your the one shooting people and seeing the blood spirt. A soldiers life inst worth less then a civilian either, if your going to think about a reacreation that way.

The thing is if 10 years ago you told people that thousands of young people would be spending hours at time playing a SS soldier shooting polish people in the head, and celebrating 'knife' kills they would say your insane.

The thing is we have slowy approached this, sure ok people slowy accpeted wolfenstein with its pixeleted graphics but in another several years there people will be accepting even higher levels of realism.

THe thinkg is IMO doesn't matter weather its getting a knife kill on a unsuspect sniper or bombing dresden- because its not real. If your going to imagine that it matters then its all pretty f-ing sick.

Iv known peopel that have enough, somewhere along the line they decided getting a 'point' for getting a headshot, seeing a puff of blood, and a death scream was just not ok. I agree it does get kinda wierd somtimes, but the thing is its not real and it is just a game.

There may come a point with realism thoguh that I want to go back to playing 'old' fh just because everything is not so amzingly real looking, and I wouldn't want it to be like real life video of people dieng.

myrkul_8 February 17th, 2005 06:18 PM

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Actually playin PC games 'CAN' make you insane... Not so long ago a kid in germany slaughtered pretty many in his school cuz he got angry about Counter-Strike.
This kinda chases have been seen in the US as well...

ace-of-spades February 17th, 2005 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by [11PzG] USMA2010
Ace of Spades, you are pretty twisted...

You demented signature image ain't helping either.

Twisted??? how so?:confused:

terminal-strike February 17th, 2005 06:30 PM

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yea I don't think kids should have games where you shoot anything but monsters, and especially they should not have modern games with high relaism. Modern games with there increaing graphic qualities, aren't really becoming 'just game' anymore there becomeing simulators for amoral and gruesome behavior.

silian February 17th, 2005 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by myrkul_8
Actually playin PC games 'CAN' make you insane... Not so long ago a kid in germany slaughtered pretty many in his school cuz he got angry about Counter-Strike.
This kinda chases have been seen in the US as well...

What's even worse is that PC games can kill you!...

I once read about some South Korean bloke was playing an MMORPG at a cybercafe, he played for four days straight, he didn't eat, drink or sleep, he would just occasionally go to the toilet, well after day five he was found dead, sitting on the bog in the Gents. What a way to go! :lol:

The American Way February 17th, 2005 06:36 PM

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What he is trying to say it is something a 15 year old would use as his sig...wait...

Neighbor Kid February 17th, 2005 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by myrkul_8
Actually playin PC games 'CAN' make you insane... Not so long ago a kid in germany slaughtered pretty many in his school cuz he got angry about Counter-Strike.
This kinda chases have been seen in the US as well...

Wow theres only one place else i can think of this happening, go to staterupsteve.com then click in then on funny, then look for CS (counter stike) then watch it. its pretty screwed up, but little funny if you look at it in a funny way.

R4DG aka Run 4 Da Gun February 17th, 2005 06:43 PM

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dukw?

we dont need transport vechicles
we need tanks

Anlushac11 February 17th, 2005 06:44 PM

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Where in the F*** did you come up with 500,000 vaporized? The pre raid population was only 255,000!

Try about 66,000 killed outright and 69,000 wounded at Hiroshima. This is immediately after the raid. Your statement specifically mentioned those vaporized in the attack.

Even if you add in the 39,000 killed and 25,000 wounded from Nagasaki your still way short of 500,000 killed in teh initial attack.

And Im sick and F***** tired of you bleeding heart liberals leaving out the facts. Please have the courtesy to research the ffacts before you post.

Hiroshima held the headquarters for the Southern command that was organizing defences for the anticipated imminent invasion of Japan. Hiroshima was also the communications nexus of the entire southern part of Japan.

The numbers that have died since the bombings that are suspected but cannot all be proven to have been caused by radiation poisoning and complications is not yet 500,000

By the next time this subject comes up Im sure the number will be 1 million.

ace-of-spades February 17th, 2005 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The American Way
What he is trying to say it is something a 15 year old would use as his sig...wait...

kwell wtf is flaming avatar soposed to mean??:mad: dont get on my case!

Neighbor Kid February 17th, 2005 06:48 PM

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http://starterupsteve.com/swf/lolol.html? go here to see what im talking about.

ace-of-spades February 17th, 2005 06:57 PM

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rofl unil the school part! true though!

The American Way February 17th, 2005 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Anlushac11
Where in the F*** did you come up with 500,000 vaporized? The pre raid population was only 255,000!

Try about 66,000 killed outright and 69,000 wounded at Hiroshima. This is immediately after the raid. Your statement specifically mentioned those vaporized in the attack.

Even if you add in the 39,000 killed and 25,000 wounded from Nagasaki your still way short of 500,000 killed in teh initial attack.

And Im sick and F***** tired of you bleeding heart liberals leaving out the facts. Please have the courtesy to research the ffacts before you post.

Hiroshima held the headquarters for the Southern command that was organizing defences for the anticipated imminent invasion of Japan. Hiroshima was also the communications nexus of the entire southern part of Japan.

The numbers that have died since the bombings that are suspected but cannot all be proven to have been caused by radiation poisoning and complications is not yet 500,000

By the next time this subject comes up Im sure the number will be 1 million.

Does it make it any more right if less people died? No. The fact of the matter is that thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians died to demonstrate our nuclear capablities. Although I find Dresden to be a much worse and less publicized event of mass destruction. I have no idea where "bleeding heart liberals" came from either.

Neighbor Kid February 17th, 2005 07:05 PM

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Seriously watch the mini clip.People are retarded these days. me if i get mad i just shut donw my PC and watch somthing like Law & Order...

Anlushac11 February 17th, 2005 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The American Way
Does it make it any more right if less people died? No. The fact of the matter is that thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians died to demonstrate our nuclear capablities. Although I find Dresden to be a much worse and less publicized event of mass destruction. I have no idea where "bleeding heart liberals" came from either.

You feel so sorry for the Japanese who started their war with the US, thats fine. Get the facts straight. Personally its a little late in 1945 to complain about the effects of total war.

Explain your concept of right anmd wrong to the thousands who died in Rotterdam, London, Coventry, Plymouth, Stalingrad, Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev, Smolensk, and Warsaw.

Also it should be pointed out that not as many people died at Nagasaki as died in Tokyo during the fire bombing raid.

ace-of-spades February 17th, 2005 07:12 PM

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he japs deserved all that they got!!!

The American Way February 17th, 2005 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Anlushac11
You feel so sorry for the Japanese who started their war with the US, thats fine. Get the facts straight. Personally its a little late in 1945 to complain about the effects of total war.

Explain your concept of right anmd wrong to the thousands who died in Rotterdam, London, Coventry, Plymouth, Stalingrad, Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev, Smolensk, and Warsaw.

Also it should be pointed out that not as many people died at Nagasaki as died in Tokyo during the fire bombing raid.

Yeah, but fire bombing doesn't create radioactive fallout. Now, how could you justify genocide? To get back for them doing wrong? Doesn't that make us the villain, too? Is it the fault of young children who get leukemia that Pearl Harbor happened. Is it all Germans faults for WWI and WWII?

It is never too late to talk about what happened in the past, we study the past so we will not repeat the mistakes of our fathers.

Neighbor Kid February 17th, 2005 07:17 PM

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Germans did not start WW1 they helped. but all i have to say there always going to be a major fighting force.

A force to be reckoned.

The American Way February 17th, 2005 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Neighbor Kid
Germans did not start WW1 they helped. but all i have to say there always going to be a major fighting force.

A force to be reckoned.

Trust me, Kaiser Wilhelm was itching to put his name in the history books. He gave Austria-Hungary a blank check for the war and his troops. He knew what he was doing.

btw, you sort of sound like a bad movie trailer no offense or anything

"..a major fighting force

a force to be reckoned!"

R4DG aka Run 4 Da Gun February 17th, 2005 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ace-of-spades
he japs deserved all that they got!!!

what an empty thought

yes that little girl deserved to have her body incenerated BECAUSE SHE LIVED IN JAPAN! and if she lived there that means she supports the japs that raped the people at nanking!

IT MUST BE TRUE

:smack:

sometimes your uninformed opinion should stay unpublished

seriously, i am still astonished you said that; its not even supported, you dont even have your reasons

Neighbor Kid February 17th, 2005 07:26 PM

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forgot the word with.. lol

Anlushac11 February 17th, 2005 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The American Way
Yeah, but fire bombing doesn't create radioactive fallout. Now, how could you justify genocide? To get back for them doing wrong? Doesn't that make us the villain, too? Is it the fault of young children who get leukemia that Pearl Harbor happened. Is it all Germans faults for WWI and WWII?

It is never too late to talk about what happened in the past, we study the past so we will not repeat the mistakes of our fathers.

The firebombing raid on Tokyo killed more people than the Nagasaki bombing did. The number of people rendered homeless by the bombing who later died of exposure, dehydradtion and starvation is still greater than the number of people who have died at Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

Genocide:
Noun, The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

Explain how two atomic bombs can be construed as genocide?

You act like this was done in peacetime against a unsuspecting enemy. Japan started the war, Japan was the ones using slave labor and executing civilians and POW's. That you can even act like the Japanese were the offended parties is beyond my emotional response range. I am speechless. If they diodnt want to be bombed then they should not have started a war with the US.

The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were just the last two in a long list of hideous acts conducted in the new world order of total war, brought to you by your local Luftwaffe.

Neighbor Kid February 17th, 2005 07:32 PM

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Holocaust The genocide of European Jews and others by the Nazis during World War II: “Israel emerged from the Holocaust and is defined in relation to that catastrophe” (Emanuel Litvinoff).
A massive slaughter: “an important document in the so-far sketchy annals of the Cambodian holocaust” (Rod Nordland).
A sacrificial offering that is consumed entirely by flames ( FROM DICTIONARY. COM!)

Others Say Holocaust is destruction by fire.

I say lock thread.

USMA2010 February 17th, 2005 07:34 PM

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Huh, that is exactly the opposite of what I thought you would think, Anlushac... Hmm, I guess you learn something new every day.

Either way, the conversation boils down to this:

Nukes in BF can't be done.
Ace of Spades is s a psychopath.

EDIT: You referred to American Way as a 'bleeding heart liberal'

Anlushac, three words for you:

I. Love. You.

Anlushac11 February 17th, 2005 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Run 4 Da Gun
what an empty thought

yes that little girl deserved to have her body incenerated BECAUSE SHE LIVED IN JAPAN! and if she lived there that means she supports the japs that raped the people at nanking!

IT MUST BE TRUE

:smack:

sometimes your uninformed opinion should stay unpublished

seriously, i am still astonished you said that; its not even supported, you dont even have your reasons

Instead of blaming the US for bombing the Japanese why dont you try blaming the Japanese Military for starting a war they had no hope of winning and then conducting acts of barbarism by executing POW's and civilians.

The fact that the little girl and thousands like her died is tragic. but no more so or less than all the millions like her killed in the war.

R4DG aka Run 4 Da Gun February 17th, 2005 07:36 PM

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holocaust to me is 12,000 dead a day at one camp for 5 years

Neighbor Kid February 17th, 2005 07:39 PM

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thats more than what was placed on the records 12,000*365*5*X= # OF DEAD

X= number of camps *= multiplication

R4DG aka Run 4 Da Gun February 17th, 2005 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Anlushac11
Instead of blaming the US for bombing the Japanese why dont you try blaming the Japanese Military for starting a war they had no hope of winning and then conducting acts of barbarism by executing POW's and civilians.

The fact that the little girl and thousands like her died is tragic. but no more so or less than all the millions like her killed in the war.

i dont blame anyone for the decision, both sides had their reasons

pointing fingers really have nothing for it

but i do look down on the US for using such a destructive weapon on one military target in an urban area

the japs could of beaten the americans until midway, there is turning points in war


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