Clear points cheat or not?

[mondogenerator]

Originally Posted by XP(nl)

Some servers take screenshots

Thats true but thats to catch cheaters, if you set it to take screen shots of every player that joins...then go into the server, check out the images, go into the game server, warn them, double check there not using it any more, if not kick them etc...you see where im going? It would be a nightmare to enforce. And to be brutally honest, admins don't get paid, theres only so much there gonna do before it becomes totally unfun for them and they hand in there BFRM keys.

Its not a cheat, it doesn't help you rack up kills or capture more flags, it would be a nightmare to administer so give up now.

BTW, this discussion has been happening for 2 years starting on BF1942.com and they came to the same conclusion after huge threads....its not a cheat

[Arisaka]

Originally Posted by Rikupsoni

It is a .exe like some cheat. I think that's a cheat, I don't customize my game just like in CS: "omg i need scripts i need cheats new configs stats omg"

No offence..

:lol: you can't determine wether or not it is a cheat based on what filetype it is! several mods use .exe (typically a self-extracting rar or zip-file), including the realism-patch. you know, some programs are .exe's too

and what is

"omg i need scripts i need cheats new configs stats omg"

supposed to mean? i know it's n00btalk*, but it seems as though it is supposed to mean something.

it is not a cheat, it is not an unfair patch, it is not helping you improve your stat (it lets your unsuspecting teammates not have to go through spawn-wave hell), it is simply a gameplay improving patch that should be PROMOTED rather than discussed like this! can't the devs please just say "yes, we are including this system (not the specific patch) in 0.86, until then we have too much to do, but we don't consider this a cheat"?!


*) (i'm not saying you are a noob, i can see that you are harassing them )

[A$$A$$IN]

No.

Clearpoints is about the same thing as using a joystick. Actually, I would say a joystick even gives more of an advantage, because it helps you to kill the enemy. All that this does is prevent tks.

[XP(nl)]

The point is that every1 knows were to get a joystick
and that they know it exist.
Does any1 know this(clear points) exist and where/how 2 get it??

[stm_Masi]

Here you go.I had to zip it,no exe.attachments here.

[Ohioan]

Originally Posted by A$$A$$IN

No.

Clearpoints is about the same thing as using a joystick. Actually, I would say a joystick even gives more of an advantage, because it helps you to kill the enemy. All that this does is prevent tks.

Not if you suck. If you switch from Mouse to Joystick, you're going to suck for a bit. I use a joystick and I'm still not quite as good as I was with a mouse, but I win a lot more air battles.

[Apro-FIN-]

Originally Posted by Ohioan

Why dont we get a BFE/Liga guy to give their official opinion on it. That seems to be a somewhat standardized and nonpartisan body of regulation.

In BFE it is highly encouraged to get clearpoints. It is not necessary to get it to play... Unless you are a pilot or artilleryman when it is almost required.

[[FtN|FH] Mick]

It alters the game to your favor, therefore it's defenitely a cheat. I wouldn't mind if it were included in the next patch of FH though (maybe with mostly transparent flags instead ).

Cheers,
Mick

[[SYN] hydraSlav]

Originally Posted by mondogenerator

Thats true but thats to catch cheaters, if you set it to take screen shots of every player that joins...then go into the server, check out the images, go into the game server, warn them, double check there not using it any more, if not kick them etc...you see where im going? It would be a nightmare to enforce. And to be brutally honest, admins don't get paid, theres only so much there gonna do before it becomes totally unfun for them and they hand in there BFRM keys.

I guess you never played on DeadMeat servers then. Their admins go through screenshots and ban people that were caught cheating. In fact, their admins even go through chat logs (by the end of the day) and ban smacktards talking trash... How is that for active admining

Originally Posted by Rikupsoni

It is a .exe like some cheat. I think that's a cheat,

No, it's not an exe file that is run with the game. It's just a file replacement that changes your flag icon from huge untransparent one to one that is transparent.


It is no more a cheat then using custom crosshairs; and i know a lot of you use MC custom crosshairs

It is no more a cheat then using the FH Sound Pack; having the FH sound pack might give you a better advantage since you could destinguish sounds more easily, etc...

Originally Posted by XP(nl)

The point is that every1 knows were to get a joystick
and that they know it exist.
Does any1 know this(clear points) exist and where/how 2 get it??

Sorry, you worded it wrong. It should be:
"Can everyone get a joystick?" "No, some people can't afford it, and some don't know it works with BF, but that doesn't stop people from using JS in BF"

Same here

[Admiral Donutz]

Originally Posted by [FtN|FH] Mick

It alters the game to your favor, therefore it's defenitely a cheat. I wouldn't mind if it were included in the next patch of FH though (maybe with mostly transparent flags instead ).

Cheers,
Mick

agreed.

It does alter the game in your favor: it helps people who don't want to waste time indentifying a target but just want to shoot and kill right away. It does help you gaining more flags since no more lazy people will shoot/bomb the hell out of a certain point without checking therefor making it easier for your team to gain/hold control of a flag thefor making it easier for your team to win.

If all teams would have it (having it in FH) woud make this whole thing acceptable though since i agree that you can't see as sharp and far away as IRL.