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Braun November 23rd, 2004 04:52 PM

Re: Clear points cheat or not?
 
red is the best... its bright and doesnt look like the gay parade ran through FH

striderx2048 November 23rd, 2004 08:42 PM

Re: Clear points cheat or not?
 
i would like clearpoint with FLAGS. make the flags transparent

[SYN] hydraSlav November 24th, 2004 12:35 AM

Re: Clear points cheat or not?
 
There is nothing wrong with that! I myself do not have it (anyone has a link to download it?), but your arguments of

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Originally Posted by Großadmiral Dönitz
gives you a atvantage others don't have

is completely flawed.

Hey, some people have hair-thin tank sights, while i get 20-pixel wide black lines that block the whole view cause my textures aren't 100% (cause a 3yo game now has ridiculously high requirements). So those people have an advantage i don't. I that a cheat?

Clans communicate with TS, while general pubbers have to rely on teamchat. So we have advantage over them that they don't have. I that cheating?

Some people can fly a plane, see an infantry on the ground, dive, straffe it, then pull up without dieing, while others crash into the ground due to 10FPS and lagging out. So those that don't have an advantage over those that do. Is that cheating?

Some use a joystick which gives continous pull/dive/bank in tight manuevers while others don't have it. Is that cheating?

So how is this any different? It does not give you "unfair" power. It does not help you kill the enemy better. It simply helps your team to avoid TKs cause of ridiculous design by Dice. How is that cheating?

Admiral Donutz November 24th, 2004 01:49 AM

Re: Clear points cheat or not?
 
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Originally Posted by [SYN] hydraSlav
Hey, some people have hair-thin tank sights, while i get 20-pixel wide black lines that block the whole view cause my textures aren't 100% (cause a 3yo game now has ridiculously high requirements). So those people have an advantage i don't. I that a cheat?

It would be best if tank optics could be custom set and did not depend on the overall texture quality settings. This way everybody could have sharp tank optics unless he or she decides otherwise. *does SDK dance* It isn't a real "cheat" but it is unfair, i would call this game(engine) limitations.

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Clans communicate with TS, while general pubbers have to rely on teamchat. So we have advantage over them that they don't have. I that cheating?
I would say yes, since you can respond way faster and better organize conbined assaults. A plan playing without TS on a pub server already has a big atvantage to begin with. If the server has TS support then it would be more acceptable though.

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Some people can fly a plane, see an infantry on the ground, dive, straffe it, then pull up without dieing, while others crash into the ground due to 10FPS and lagging out. So those that don't have an advantage over those that do. Is that cheating?
Same as the first, i would call this game(engine) limitations.
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Some use a joystick which gives continous pull/dive/bank in tight manuevers while others don't have it. Is that cheating?
Well sort off. It does gives you powers others don't have, thus it gives you a large atvantage. But then people who don't have a joystick could always choose not to fly (where people without headset coudn't chose not to play at all since they would have to voice chat when gaming :P ).
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So how is this any different? It does not give you "unfair" power. It does not help you kill the enemy better. It simply helps your team to avoid TKs cause of ridiculous design by Dice. How is that cheating?
It doesn't let you kill the enemy better but it is unrealistic (the whole minimap). I would either like

A) to see nametags go but leave the minimap, using almost transparant flags.
B) Leave the nametags and scrap all units of the minimap, the map would only show your own position on the map.

I would prefer A over B though.

D-Fens November 24th, 2004 04:47 AM

Re: Clear points cheat or not?
 
Yeah Fh should incorporate this but with better looking points like flags

mondogenerator November 24th, 2004 05:08 AM

Re: Clear points cheat or not?
 
I don't personally use it but at wolf we don't consider it a cheat and it can't be monitored anyway so its moot point;)

Ohioan November 24th, 2004 06:33 AM

Re: Clear points cheat or not?
 
Why dont we get a BFE/Liga guy to give their official opinion on it. That seems to be a somewhat standardized and nonpartisan body of regulation.

XP(nl) November 24th, 2004 08:38 AM

Re: Clear points cheat or not?
 
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I don't personally use it but at wolf we don't consider it a cheat and it can't be monitored anyway so its moot poin
Some servers take screenshots :)

Arisaka November 24th, 2004 09:02 AM

Re: Clear points cheat or not?
 
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Originally Posted by XP(nl)
Some servers take screenshots :)


...it simply proves that you are taking necessary precautions to avoid TK's. it's a good thing, it helps those poor friendlies that might be in the way and it keeps people at a cool level. i *hate* people who start revenging accidental tks. :)

(one guy i accidentally tk'd kept tk'ing me an entire round, and kept shouting crap at me [tk, then laughing in the public chat, name calling, etc] . when i had had enough i got help from a few friends and we retaliated fairly. a single deliberate TK from each one of us, think we were four or something like that, no message, and then left (first tk, first person left server, 2nd tk, 2nd person left server, and so on). we then went back to a fair server.

Rikupsoni November 24th, 2004 09:12 AM

Re: Clear points cheat or not?
 
It is a .exe like some cheat. I think that's a cheat, I don't customize my game just like in CS: "omg i need scripts i need cheats new configs stats omg"

No offence..


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