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Gauntlet September 26th, 2004 08:26 AM

Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Well...here is the question:

What weapon has the most powerful single shot (like in how much damage one shot does)?

Personally I think the Zooka and Schreck is the best weapons.

Can anyone confirm or decline this oppinion?

:)

Kai Hiwatari September 26th, 2004 08:31 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Isnt it the faust???

Loff September 26th, 2004 08:32 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
I dunno...the sniper piat is so accurate, you could hit a chicken 500 yards away...i vote for piat

FactionRecon September 26th, 2004 08:33 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
But it doesn't do a whole lot of damage. My vote goes to the fausty because you can take out almost any tank with one hit (which sucks).

Tas September 26th, 2004 08:36 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
I like the zooka's (shreck is about the same), multiple shots. I cant count the number of times i have missed tanks with the faust by just one inch.. as its one shot.. Then you are screwed.

Shade_PW September 26th, 2004 08:37 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Faust all the way. I can rack up kills with it so fast...

tvih September 26th, 2004 08:55 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Mmm faust... haven't used one yet in 0.65 so dunno if it has changed, but was fun in 0.61. Actually, haven't used ANY AT weapon in 0.65 :lol:

Tas September 26th, 2004 08:57 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvih
Mmm faust... haven't used one yet in 0.65 so dunno if it has changed, but was fun in 0.61. Actually, haven't used ANY AT weapon in 0.65 :lol:

They were used ON you then eh?

Apro-FIN- September 26th, 2004 09:03 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Best AT weapon is Panzershreck as it has 4 shots combined with almost best damage and quite long range. Panzerfaust 100 does the most damage. If used correctly it can take any tank out with one shot. PIAT flies like a drunken bee but after you learn how to use it you can drop tanks with ease. Bazookas do good damage if you know where to hit with them. If I would have to choose one AT weapon for every future FH game I play I would go for Panzershreck (obviously).

Major Hartmann September 26th, 2004 09:15 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Damage wise the 3 tube rockets follow this order:
1. Panzerschreck way in front
2. Bazooka
3. PIAT slightly behind the zooka

Range speaks for the Schreck, too, but only a little bit in front of Bazooka and Piat.
Ammo is the same for all, doesn't matter.
Stealthiness speaks for Piat, it is very hard to see the shooter in certain enviroments.
Aiming of Bazooka and Panzerschreck is the same, clear disadvantage for the Piat during crouching and standing, but very good while lying.
My personal favourite is the PIAT, but maybe that's because I love Arnheim as a british.

Big Lebowski September 26th, 2004 10:02 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
please put a blast-shild on the panzerschreck... or would it be easy'r to make a whole new model...?

Gauntlet September 26th, 2004 10:06 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Oh, thx Major Hartmann. That cleared things up.

Does the Faust 30, 60 (havent seen it in 0.65 so far) and 100 does the same damage?

:)

Forrest Hump September 26th, 2004 11:33 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Even though the faust seems to lead in power, it seems to have a problem flying through a target which I havent experienced with any of the tube launchers. Id take whatever I can hit with regardless of power.

zamback September 26th, 2004 12:42 PM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big LeBowSki
please put a blast-shild on the panzerschreck... or would it be easy'r to make a whole new model...?

or give the class a mask for early map

Shade_PW September 26th, 2004 12:45 PM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
The AT weapons feel really great in 65. Not a n00b cannon and not a incontrollable weapon!

D-Fens September 26th, 2004 01:26 PM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gauntlet
Oh, thx Major Hartmann. That cleared things up.

Does the Faust 30, 60 (havent seen it in 0.65 so far) and 100 does the same damage?

:)

nope, most medium tanks can shrug off a pzf 30 at several places

tvih September 27th, 2004 02:34 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Hmm yes it sometimes seems the 30 doesn't do as much damage, and that's silly, it should.

[Spartans]Nurdy September 27th, 2004 03:08 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Most AT weapons are brilliant, expect for the Japanese Anti Tank Grenades.

Blistex September 27th, 2004 03:13 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Forrest Hump
Even though the faust seems to lead in power, it seems to have a problem flying through a target which I havent experienced with any of the tube launchers.

Were you prone when firing them? Because it seems whenever I'm laying prone behind a tank and shooting them at an upward angle the Panzerfaust has a 50-50 chance of going right through it without damaging it.

I would definatly take the Panzerfaust over any other other ones. I find that most tankers kick it into high gear once the first Zooka/Shrek/Piat hits, usually resulting in him being out of range by the time you're ready to fire again.

If you do things right with the Faust, you don't have to worry about a 2nd shot.

Just remember to hit the tracks or the rear on earlier tanks, and the engine deck on later heavy tanks.

Apro-FIN- September 27th, 2004 04:34 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
And only shoot tracks if you are shooting sherman... For some reason fausts don't always do almost any damage at all when shooting the rear of sherman...

Forrest Hump September 27th, 2004 06:06 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blistex
Were you prone when firing them? Because it seems whenever I'm laying prone behind a tank and shooting them at an upward angle the Panzerfaust has a 50-50 chance of going right through it without damaging it.

Hasnt happened from prone, however it happened once when I Was shooting from a 2nd story window into the engine deck of a tank, as well as standing.

Dancingwllamas September 27th, 2004 06:44 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvih
Hmm yes it sometimes seems the 30 doesn't do as much damage, and that's silly, it should.

Shoot them in the tracks. One shot one kill every time.

Kingrudolf September 27th, 2004 07:19 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
I always go for the side, the rear often bugs. The front sometimes survives the hit. But the side, it's a much bigger target, you won't risk getting caught, and it always penetrates. Tricky part is, you need to aim well to hit the target when moving. 75% of the people don't know how to hit moving targets.. I can simply not believe that!

Von Mudra September 27th, 2004 05:04 PM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Well, in real life, the Scherk was the deadlist, followed by Faust, tehn Bazooka, and the Pait was crap.

One story form Arnhem say a Piat gunner on top of a roof fired 7 shots on varying pionts of a tiger, and then the Tiger turned its turret around, and blew him about 40 feet of the roof and onto anther roof, severly wounding the guy, but not killing him. It is true, look it up, it was seen by John Howard, the leader of the assualt on Pegusus Bridge, and is in the book Pegusus Bridge by Stephen Ambrose.

But, yeah, Scherk was the best in real life, over 200 mm of armor, then Fuast with 180mm, then bassoka with 100mm, then Pait with like 40-50mm, I think....

Insane1 September 27th, 2004 05:10 PM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
actually the panzerfaust 150 and panzerfaust 100 pentrated more armor then the panzershreck
there were also two types of panzershrecks 54 and 43
and fh has panzerfaust placement all wrong in its maps

Von Mudra September 27th, 2004 06:44 PM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Well, faust 150 isn't even in game, and 100 I am pretty sure was 180mm, though I could be wrong.... Still, schreck was better as you can reload, and not hunt around for an ammo box if you miss. They should have about the same damage anyways, as both could take out any allies tank in side or rear armor in one shot, and one shot on most frontal armor.

tvih September 29th, 2004 10:56 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Yeah well, the 'schreck really should be powered up, I mean, it's not on many maps anyway, so it wouldn't unbalance the game, now would it?

Tas September 29th, 2004 11:05 AM

Re: Faust, Zooka, Schreck and Piat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tvih
Yeah well, the 'schreck really should be powered up, I mean, it's not on many maps anyway, so it wouldn't unbalance the game, now would it?

Uhm.. yes it would. Since you dont play the game, you play in maps.. The schreck is powerfull enough. Took out a pantherD with one shot to the ass. Just like it should imo.


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