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terminal-strike July 22nd, 2004 10:11 AM

Transport Aircraft Ammo Boxes Useless?
 
Iv never had a transport aircraft that can drop ammo boxes drop ammo to me. And Iv never been successful in delivering ammo from the plane either. One time when I used them, the person said the boxes dissapeared to quickly to get any ammo from them. It seems even if they worked better there not very usefull to gameplay anyway though.

What are other peoples experience with dropping ammo boxes from aircraft. Im curious if anyone has used these correctly and had it really contribute to winning. Sure there handy for use as a taxi or para-drop, but beyond that, when actually playing as a transport aircraft who has really aided the team. (And when I say usefull I don't mean nine-elevening the king tiger with the DC-3).

D-Fens July 22nd, 2004 10:24 AM

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nah they are useless. they should drop some light infantry guns instead.

cheesemancrusader July 22nd, 2004 10:26 AM

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Maybe put a parachute on them for more accurate drop to infantry and change from ammo box to "supplies" so it gives ammo and health.

D-Fens July 22nd, 2004 10:33 AM

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health would be much better yes, but they have model those para containers

Beast of War July 22nd, 2004 10:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Fens
nah they are useless. they should drop some light infantry guns instead.

Transports drop the only sniper kit in the map on that side.......imagine the players wanting that kit go beserk if a nOOb pilots the transporter....... :lol:

No, serious, i think that it should drop infantry equipment too, but stuff that isn't available in the menu, and is usefull to the players in the field. That means heavier or less available weapons like panzerschreck heavy AT kit, expack demolition kit, heavy tripod mg kit and rare scoped (semi) automatic weapons.

In large deserts dropping ammo crates can be invaluable, but in current FH there are no mapswith transpoter aircraft that have ammo crates far enough apart for that function to be any usefull.

Kakoru July 22nd, 2004 11:34 AM

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Speaking of scoped automatic weapons, I never found the scoped STG44. Where the hell is it?
I wasted 1 hour of my life just by playing "Where's the scoped STG?"

Borussia Long_po July 22nd, 2004 11:40 AM

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The transport aircraft should drop dummy paratroopers like they did in real life lol that would be cool .

MkH^ July 22nd, 2004 11:40 AM

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One can be found from the watermill in Breakhtrough.

Anyway, I think the plane dropped ammoboxes are next to useless. Instead they should drop light infantry- and anti-tank guns, tripod machineguns and different other supplies on parachutes.

[Spartans]Nurdy July 22nd, 2004 12:17 PM

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I like the idea of health and rare weapons instead of crummy ammo.

Kämpfer July 22nd, 2004 12:31 PM

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It would also be interesting if they added a parachute to the kits/supplies being dropped similiar to the Japanese bomber(dont know its name).

tvih July 22nd, 2004 01:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakoru
Speaking of scoped automatic weapons, I never found the scoped STG44. Where the hell is it?
I wasted 1 hour of my life just by playing "Where's the scoped STG?"

Speaking of scoped automatic weapons, why the heck there even IS a scoped StG44, since apparently there were no such scoped StG44s, because it didn't even have a scope mount? Only MKb42 and the rare MP43/1, slightly different from StG44 aka MP44, had the scope mount.

Master Minder July 22nd, 2004 02:52 PM

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they'll drop malibu tigers in the next version

[Spartans]Nurdy July 22nd, 2004 11:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kämpfer
It would also be interesting if they added a parachute to the kits/supplies being dropped similiar to the Japanese bomber(dont know its name).

The Betty?

A$$A$$IN July 22nd, 2004 11:52 PM

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One time on crete (i was german) i had the matilda, and i was sitting at a flag and out of ammo. So here comes the transport plane and to my suprise actually dropes ammo near me! The only problem was it literally didnt stop slidding across the ground. It slid a few hundred feet, and then flew of the top of a mountian :(.

-Moldie- July 22nd, 2004 11:58 PM

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I'd like to see light infantry support guns being dropped and then ammo after it..or "supply canisters"

D-Fens July 23rd, 2004 04:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beast of War
Transports drop the only sniper kit in the map on that side.......imagine the players wanting that kit go beserk if a nOOb pilots the transporter....... :lol:

No, serious, i think that it should drop infantry equipment too, but stuff that isn't available in the menu, and is usefull to the players in the field. That means heavier or less available weapons like panzerschreck heavy AT kit, expack demolition kit, heavy tripod mg kit and rare scoped (semi) automatic weapons.

In large deserts dropping ammo crates can be invaluable, but in current FH there are no mapswith transpoter aircraft that have ammo crates far enough apart for that function to be any usefull.

I wasn't talking about rifles and stuff, but like these
http://www.qt.org/worldwar/weapons/g.../heer/ig18.jpg
http://www.g2mil.com/how.jpg
http://www.panzertruppen.org/heer/ar...tro/lg40-1.JPG
They could even drop mortars if they werent so worthless

Grahf July 23rd, 2004 12:19 PM

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Totally useless.

It should drop special weapon kits like light machine-guns, mortars, etc.

tvih July 23rd, 2004 01:00 PM

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I see no use for the current static mortars. Like in Gold Beach no one ever uses them. Can't do any sort of indirect fire, or even estimate where the shell goes. Haven't ever tried with someone spotting, but they do seem kinda futile in general. I've even heard that people in the real world sometimes in desperate situations used mortars as direct-firing AT&infantry guns, with guesstimated aim, placing the tube rear against something vertical. I have an impression it was Finns who I read did that, but it could be some other country, or even many countries.

But then again, mortars in 0.62 could be changed..?

A$$A$$IN July 23rd, 2004 01:27 PM

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I got a kill with a mortar once! Though it was totally luck on guadal canal with a pickup kit.

judge reinhold July 23rd, 2004 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tvih
I see no use for the current static mortars. Like in Gold Beach no one ever uses them. Can't do any sort of indirect fire, or even estimate where the shell goes. Haven't ever tried with someone spotting, but they do seem kinda futile in general. I've even heard that people in the real world sometimes in desperate situations used mortars as direct-firing AT&infantry guns, with guesstimated aim, placing the tube rear against something vertical. I have an impression it was Finns who I read did that, but it could be some other country, or even many countries.

But then again, mortars in 0.62 could be changed..?

finnish supermen are our superiors :rolleyes:

nosispower July 23rd, 2004 07:09 PM

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I've used the mortors on Gold Beach and killed a few people before (blindly aiming).

Kakoru July 23rd, 2004 07:13 PM

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hmm, useless.. yes.

Aequitas July 23rd, 2004 08:29 PM

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Give static mortars a permanent atrillary spot of the estimate range where they can fire? This would be nice. Pointless to have a spotter for mortars, it's not worth the cost of a man having him hide so the spot does not vanish.

Here's what I think:
When a officer or sniper spots for arty, the spot should last for a LONG time, and stay if the spotter dies.
certain static artillary/support units should have permanent spots of a specific area. For example, if you hop on that mortar that's beside that house in Gold, your right-click arty view will ALWAYS show the strip of land by the front flag where it can hit. It would be useful, and people would want to use it. There would be no screaming for a spot, shooting off 2 rounds, then the spotter dies and you're out of luck.

terminal-strike July 24th, 2004 10:25 AM

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yea how about mortors just get a aim sight like the old dc mortors or a static third person view above them. There just no powerfull enough to justify buggin people for arty call as the range is to limited. The only luck i had was on gold beach with the one in the house courtyard where i called the arty calls myself. I think I got one person before i got knifed.


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