Tolerance for the noobs to FH

[Jackson_Cal]

Hey all,

First off, let me say that I LOVE FH. This is a way more impressive and immersive mod than desert combat. I had totally abandoned vanilla 1942 when Vietnam came out and have been playing FH only ever since I downloaded it a few weeks back. The maps are better than the vanilla BF maps, the models (and variations of vehicles) are way above the standard game and everything looks amazing. It also promotes teamwork inherently - I played a game last week on battle of the bulge that displayed coordination between armor, infantry and artillery on both sides that was stunning.

I've been playing for about three weeks now - and lurking the forums during that time trying to glean some information on how to play, etc. I was a pretty good vanilla BF player and am starting to get the hang of FH.

I don't want to sound like a whiner here, but I've been yelled at twice for what, in my opinion, were pretty minor mistakes. Certianly explainable mistakes. And I witness it all the time with other players - some of whom are making unforgivable stupid mistakes but a lot of whom are making honest mistakes. I've witnessed this on mulitple servers. There seems to be very little tolerance for this sort of thing among the FH players (maybe too general of a statement - there's a SET of FH players). Honestly, this has been the only negative aspect of the game for me but is a very negative aspect - it takes a lot of the fun out of it to worry that people are going to jump down your throat if you don't handle a situation the way they expect you to.

I guess the point of my post is to plead for a little tolerance among the veterans - not all of us noobs are stupid and useless. We'll get there.

And thanks, Devs, for an awesome, awesome mod.

[zero_zero]

can you point out some of the mistakes you where talking about??
personaly I hate it when a nOOb drives away with the katusha

[MG42Maniac]

Originally Posted by zero_zero

can you point out some of the mistakes you where talking about??
personaly I hate it when a nOOb drives away with the katusha

Things that need to be sorted out as they are being abused by n00bs:

1, Arty needs to be one man.
2, Pilots need to be locked into planes till they land it.
3, PPSH41 whoring.
4, Rifle Nades.
5, KT bug.
6, Various bugs
7, Knife and Zooka, rifle etc closing bug.
8, and some more I can't think of at this time as my mind is on other things *_*

[Shade_PW]

Well, there'll always be some stupid assholes who are unsure of themselves and thus have to attack others to feel better, but have no fear! I think that a lot of the FH community (myself included) will be more than glad to answer any questions even if they are "n00bish". As for the flamers - hm, don't know. Maybe you should report their post to a mod and he might give them a warning?

Anyway, welcome!

[Shade_PW]

Originally Posted by 42

2, Pilots need to be locked into planes till they land it.

Meh, the eject key just has to have a 5-8second delay and thatll teach them! And btw, it was like that IRL!

[Jackson_Cal]

Hehe - no, nothing like that. The same basic rules from vanilla BF still apply - including treating arty like a tank

Both of the mistakes I got reamed for where with the tanks:

1) tickets were counting down fast (< 20) on bulge and I made a run from the allied base with a sherman towards the town flag to try and get a quick cap. There were infantry with me. Got flamed for exposing the tank like that.

2) driving a tank on Gazala - fired at an enemy tank as player was driving by that tank in a jeep. Aim was off and I smoked my teammate... Immediately apologized but he wasn't appeased

[Beast of War]

Originally Posted by Jackson_Cal

Hehe - no, nothing like that. The same basic rules from vanilla BF still apply - including treating arty like a tank

Both of the mistakes I got reamed for where with the tanks:

1) tickets were counting down fast (< 20) on bulge and I made a run from the allied base with a sherman towards the town flag to try and get a quick cap. There were infantry with me. Got flamed for exposing the tank like that.

2) driving a tank on Gazala - fired at an enemy tank as player was driving by that tank in a jeep. Aim was off and I smoked my teammate... Immediately apologized but he wasn't appeased

There are always idiots that think they "own the game" think nothing of that.....when you are not killing your own team on purpose, or stealing vehicles right from under their butt, you can't do much wrong. Many server rules don't rather want you not to steal or hang around in enemy main bases.....other then that there aren't any "real" rules in pub servers.

There are always loud mouths that claim vehicles you are in or tell you to get out because they can use it better then you......( yeah right ) let them scream all they want, it is a public game.....

Just to be short : if some behaviour seems unjust and rediculous toward you and you think you weren't doing anything wrong, it probably is unjust and rediculous and you don't have to worry about it, and just let those losers be.....however they might kill you or blow you up, then just change to another server......by TK' ing them back you might make yourself unwelcome on good capacity servers.

Players will - btw - appriciate you more if you can use vehilces effectively without losing them within 30 seconds......but that still isn't a reason to act rediculous toward you

[Mike 51]

Neither of those are big mistakes - if at all - and I'm amazed anyone called you on them. A dash with a Sherman is fair enough; granted on Bulge you're likely to become Panther meat if you try, but it's a perfectly valid try to stop the ticket bleed, even if you end up blown apart. Exposing a Sherman isn't the end of the world, it's not like its that valuable a vehicle!

Everyone complains about a tk, in Vanilla, EoD, DC, FH, everywhere. They're not really 'n00bish', everyone does it once in a while, and anyone who can't take the apology is a waste of time. Unless you shoot someone in the back on the runway, or blow up a friendly King Tiger, or something like that, most tks are easily forgivable.

[MelanchOli]

Talking of "forgiveable tks", most people in FH still don't seem to have understood the ftk function, have they?

For all who don't know what I'm talking about: if someone team kills you by accident and you accept the apology, open up the console (^ key) and enter "ftk" - short for forgive team kill. The other player has his -2 points penalty removed and won't get kicked fot tk'ing on that occasion. I think it's just a bit of being nice to other people.

However, if you get TKed on purpose, just leave it be.

[Oxide]

Jackson_Cal: here's my advice: open up console and write

ignore <ID>

and then go on with your happy gaming.