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Re: General Inaccuracies

April 10th, 2004 01:37 PM

Yes, but slower turning rate would probably result in quite annoying tank combat, since in FH battles are fought in miniature scales, unlike in real life, where ranges are usually up to two and half kilometers, which is over two times longer than the usual ranges in FH.

1031427

Re: General Inaccuracies

April 10th, 2004 01:42 PM

Yeah half the range... half the turret speed... that's ok then.

1031453

Re: General Inaccuracies

April 10th, 2004 01:49 PM

The faster ones are annoying, like the sherman turret, but other then that they're ok. Will the Pak40's be rotate-able in the next patch? And is russia getting some Anti Tank guns and Arty?

Will other countries get deployable guns like the '88?

A Recoiless rifle mounted kit would be awesome.

1031460

Re: General Inaccuracies

April 10th, 2004 01:53 PM

Yeah!.... or the "Barnstormer"... that would be a barn stormer.....

1032070

Re: General Inaccuracies

April 10th, 2004 06:16 PM

I think that the devs have said that the only reason that the Pak40 does not rotate is that it was added in last minute and they didnt do all that much coding for it. as for the deployable 88s, well, not much of a loss if they dont get them, i would rather have all AT guns be able to be disconnected, reconnected, to any truck.

1032090

Re: General Inaccuracies

April 10th, 2004 06:27 PM

Has been brought up before, unsure if it can be changed or not. Sounds like a simple thing to do, but this is the BF1942 engine we're talking about....

The Daimler Armoured Car could also be driven rapidly in reverse, so it wasn't unique to Pumas.

1032110

Re: General Inaccuracies

Anlushac11

April 10th, 2004 06:42 PM

The gun in the Puma was not intended to be a a/t gun but it was the same 50mm L/60 as the PzIII L except for the muzzle brake to ease the stress on the lighter weight Puma

The 50mm L/60 firing PzGr40 could penetrate 72mm of vertical armor at 500m, more than the Sherman had on the sides or rear.

The PzIII for its time was a nice little tank. It had 50-70mm frontal armor depending on the model and its 50mm L/42 or later 50mm L/60 was capable of killing most of its opponents til the T34 and later Sherman appeared in numbers.

The main problem is especially in North Africa maps you have the Brits with the excellently armored Matilda II with its decent 40mm gun and the Crusader with its excellent 57mm gun. The Germans have a PzII with the 20mm gun and the PzIV with the weak 75mm L/24. There is no larger caliber high velocity a/t gun to counter the T34 or the Matilda II's other than the Tiger.

1032321

Re: General Inaccuracies

April 10th, 2004 08:44 PM

WTF? I assume you're referring to the 75/l43, which could knock out a T34 no problem. T34's did not have a lot of armor, and it was very poor steel. By the end of '44 they were not main line tanks, this was more a job for the heavies by then. The 75/l43 is more comparable (but still not quite) to the 85mm on the T34/85. The 75/l43 penetrated a little more armor, but the '85 had more HE per shell. Now, the T34/85 was not a heavily armored beast either--47mm in the front hull, sources say between 30 to 45 degrees (don't know where the truth lies). That means that any long barreled 75 should have no problem for a hull penetration, and the 75/l70 and 88/l56 would have no problem making swiss cheese of the '85 anywhere, including the mantle.

The MK4 was later upgraded to 80mm of armor front in the Ausf F2 (I believe), and used the 75/l43. The Ausf H used armored skirts on the side to stop HEAT rounds and the 75/l48. Both of these could withstand a shot from a T34/76 no problem to the front, and both of them could preforate a T34/76 from almost anywhere.

The Germans used soft ballistic cap AT rounds, meaning it wouldn't totally neglify (is that a word?) the sloped armor, but it would allow for a more "head-on" hit, and would end up penetrating more armor because of that. This means that a 30-45 degree T34 is now about 45-60 degrees, while I'm sure that's not correct you get the general idea.

You have a good idea of how armor works, you're just confused, keep studying. Anlushac can teach you a LOT too, if you're willing to learn.

1032339

Re: General Inaccuracies

April 10th, 2004 08:56 PM

I'm gonna have to write a book called "What I've Learned From the FH Forum: and How to Identify Knife Asshats"

1032506

Re: General Inaccuracies

April 11th, 2004 12:07 AM

lol