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Old March 21st, 2004   #51
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just remember how bf42 was when it came out as well. it ran like crap on my last maching as well. after a patch it ran much much better.

im keeping an eye out for bfv mods. hopefully these brilliant modders will at least try a mini mod to see how hard it actually is.
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Old March 21st, 2004   #52
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but you see this is a "new" engine it suppose to be built whatever is the foundation of bf42. but it should be running out of the box if its built on bf42 current version

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BF42 and BF:V both use the Refractor 2 engine, but that doesn't mean that DICE just changed out some stuff to make it look like Vietnam. They had to rewrite the render engine or something to display all the foilage and stuff. Even small changes can spawn bugs that aren't noticed by beta testers for some reason.
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they also rehauled the sound engine or added to it to be able to play the music. and we all know how much sound seems to casue lag on servers.

remember also that BFV went into design at a very early stage of BF42 i belive i first heard it at around 1.25 which if my memory serves correct was the second patch for bf42
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if you believe those stories. i dont. this is from the same people who said that they couldnt fix the chatlag, but instead they said if they fix the chatlag, it would make the game more lagged. all BS.

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I´ve already given up on playin BF-V, even though i got it 10 hours ago...
In my opinion, they should have called it "Unreal Vietnam", or "Quake-Cong", because thats what it is gamplay-wise.

Its is waaaay too arcarde, there´s just no need for tactics.

So far, FH will do just fine for me, nothing beats it !
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My initial thoughts exactly. Although I haven't played the game, I've seen some outlandish screen shots including a helicopter flying through the air carrying a large boat which itself is carrying another helicopter on its deck--and the flying 'copter is holding onto its load with a single cable. Just a symbol, to me, that BFV has gone too arcade. BF1942 had it's problems with Unreal-esque infantry moves--BFV seems to be worse. Not worth the time nor money.

Sure it's just a game, but I'm partial to realism in the action genre. More tactics, more stealth--less jumping, diving, and shootin' from the hip. The game's not for me, but for plenty of others BFV will be well worth the money in the long-run.

Beyond BFV, however, I am interested in NovaLogic's "Joint Operations" for what might be a more realistic 1st person action game. By the way, did you know EA is a major stock holder of Nova Logic? Just can't escape the EA money-making machine

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You guys must relieze BF is an arcade game, not realism. Beyond its unrealistic gameplay(though they have made many things about the game more realistic) it is very fun and enjoyable!

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dont feel for the darkside!

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Forget about BF: vietnam! Its too arcadisch (bf1942 was fine, it was on the edge of being too arcadisch). When they first announced bf: V I was hoping dice would make it a bit more realistic but nope (also thanks to dc the most populair but arcadisch mod of bf) they made it even more arcadisch, *sigh*. They even dare to ask € 45,- / 50,- (euro's) for it!

So i will not buy bf: V until there is a mod for it that will surpas FH on all fronts.
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I`ve played BF:V and didn`t like it.Too arcade (maybe even more then BF) and for some reason I found the grafics like a cartoon,don`t know why...And yet I bought it cause I thought maybe online it would be fun.You know,playing it between a few rounds of FH....
BUT... it won`t run decent on my system.I heard it has something to do with Netcode??
Anyways,after BF:V I`ve only gotten more respect for the FH devs and the work they made
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