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striderx2048 February 14th, 2004 01:44 PM

tanks vs battleships
 
well after all the vs. tanks threads and the vs. yamato thread. I have concluded that a tank can not sink a battleship, anyone else agree?

Ohioan February 14th, 2004 01:46 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Yeah. Not like that situation ever happened historically to quote from, but ingame, you can't sink a battleship with tank rounds, or if you can, I don't feel like doing it for hours to see.

lumpeh February 14th, 2004 02:02 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Its not like you'd get that scenario in RL though as they would far out at sea bombarding via radio command. Its just another BF limitation like the wheeled coffin that is the APC in BF. Its a 6 for 1 deal to tanks!

OT but it sounds like the APCs in Soldner will be quite useful given vastness of terrain. :)
pps if you check out their latest dev diary, at the very bottom they have a render of a wermacht support gunner.

Blistex February 14th, 2004 02:40 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
German tanks used to sink Soviet ships on the Volga during Stalingrad, but then again they didn't have 14"-18" of armour.

Vic Vega February 14th, 2004 02:48 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Fireflies can sink destroyers...

Anlushac11 February 14th, 2004 02:59 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Hypothetically speaking if a tank can get plunging fire on a Battleship it can penetrate the deck armor without a whole lot of problem.

Side belt armor I think a Tank gun barrel would wear out before the Battleships side belt armor was penetrated.

A Destroyer in general has less armor than a tank(50mm to 25mm) so a Tank should sink a Destroyer without too much problem. I sank Jap Destroyers before using the M10.

LordKhaine February 14th, 2004 03:16 PM

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Well I'm sure a tank could damage a ship... but the ship can absorb so much damage I can't see it being in danger unless it's being hit by numerous tanks.

SilenT AssassiN February 14th, 2004 03:21 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
one shot in the command tower might do somthing

AussieZaitsev February 14th, 2004 03:42 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
lucky shot to the magazine mabye?

Anlushac11 February 14th, 2004 03:43 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Even if you blow all of the superstructure off of a Battleship off you still have to penetrate the hull below the waterline to reduce buoyancy or penetrate down into a magazine to blow up a Battleship. Most Battleships have a 300mm or greater side belt armor. Even at 500m range the best anti-tank gun in WW2 cannot penetrate 300mm armor plate.

A modern tank gun like a 120mm NATO APFSDS can but youre talking making a hole that can be plugged with a cork.

sep. February 14th, 2004 04:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anlushac11
Even if you ...BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...00mm armor plate...BLAHBITY BLAH BLAH... cork.

OR: you could just have a couple of pirates board the battleship and then savage the innocent. Problem solved, and 100% realistic. Especially if they're ghost pirates, because realistically no man can kill a ghost pirate, even with a 120mm cork-hole-sized-weapon.

P.S.: Correct me if I'm wrong, but to state "Even if you've blown off the superstructure of a Battleship..." is sort of like saying "Even if you've blown off a man's head..." OH NO HERE COMES THE SEMI-FLOATING HEAP OF BURNING METAL! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! Who cares.

SimonS. February 14th, 2004 04:19 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
I wonder what it feels like to be in the toilet when your ship is sinking

sep. February 14th, 2004 04:22 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Holy crap SimonS, that sig pwns. (seriously) 100% respect for anyone pulling off a nice sig in MSPaint.

BUT: If you want to be 100% realistic that mp40's di-polar uro-machnisism needs to be about a quarter di-meter to the left of the loading unit functionary screwhead.

lumpeh February 14th, 2004 04:23 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
:lol:

Or do what Nelson did to the french and fire across the deck...

*Sailor washes deck with water*
Young Sailor: Whats that for sir?
Sailor: To stop fires from starting lad
Young Sailor: ahhh right good idea!
*spots another spreading sand on the decks*
Young Sailor: Whats that in aid of sir?
Sailor(2): ..To soak up the blood lad...
Young Sailor: .....*looks pale*

:uhoh:

SimonS. February 14th, 2004 04:43 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
MS paint is easy

If anyone plays DoD they'll know the Version 1.0 had crappy hitboxes, the worst case was with the Garand and Mg42 not registering hits with them, So i Did a cartoon...

http://img23.photobucket.com/albums/...GarandAnim.gif

Vic Vega February 14th, 2004 04:47 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Looks more like an M44 than a Garand.


Cool sig, though. You must have a tablet.

SimonS. February 14th, 2004 04:49 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic Vega
Looks more like an M44 than a Garand.


Cool sig, though. You must have a tablet.

Drugs?

sep. February 14th, 2004 04:57 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Further pwnage.

Anlushac11 February 14th, 2004 05:07 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sep.
OR: you could just have a couple of pirates board the battleship and then savage the innocent. Problem solved, and 100% realistic. Especially if they're ghost pirates, because realistically no man can kill a ghost pirate, even with a 120mm cork-hole-sized-weapon.

P.S.: Correct me if I'm wrong, but to state "Even if you've blown off the superstructure of a Battleship..." is sort of like saying "Even if you've blown off a man's head..." OH NO HERE COMES THE SEMI-FLOATING HEAP OF BURNING METAL! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! Who cares.

Oh look, another noob that knows jack shit about WW2 so they try to make up for it by being annoying. How original. I suppose next will be the witty comeback.

javierlopez February 14th, 2004 05:42 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonS.
MS paint is easy

If anyone plays DoD they'll know the Version 1.0 had crappy hitboxes, the worst case was with the Garand and Mg42 not registering hits with them, So i Did a cartoon...

http://img23.photobucket.com/albums/...GarandAnim.gif

:lol: :lol:

sep. February 14th, 2004 05:49 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anlushac11
Oh look, another noob that knows jack shit about WW2 so they try to make up for it by being annoying. How original. I suppose next will be the witty comeback.

What are you talking about, oh great provider of 100% accurate realism items of information truly important and pertinant to all things? I am truly a fool to question your omnipotence, but in this I must.

Anlushac11 February 14th, 2004 06:21 PM

Re: tanks vs battleships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sep.
What are you talking about, oh great provider of 100% accurate realism items of information truly important and pertinant to all things? I am truly a fool to question your omnipotence, but in this I must.

I provide information pertinant to this thread, which is more than I can say for your posts.

And you will never hear me claim omnipotence.

As Socrates said "And in knowing that you know nothing, that makes you the smartest of all."

Questioning me does not make you a fool, being yourself makes you a fool.

AzH February 14th, 2004 06:24 PM

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Grrrrr!!! :mad:

thread closed. behave!!!


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