M26 Pershing

[Luscious]

Have a look at the book "Another River, Another Town" by John P. Irwin. It is the authors tale of being a tank driver in WWII Europe, and was the gunner of the only Super Pershing in Europe. It's a pretty short book, you could probably go through it in a couple of evenings. Also, he was the gunner of the tank that took out that pather as described above.

[Oxide]

Whatabout the Firefly? It should be able to take out a KT head on with 1 shot, yes or no?

[[11PzG]matyast]

You could always power up the firefly a bit. That would give the tiger some opposition.
Or maybe you could add more 100+ mm shermans......

[Anlushac11]

Yeah. Imagine that the Brits recovered one of Sp.Pz.Abt. 501's Tigers in Tunisia and shipped it to Bovington to literally dissect the enemies new heavy tank. The Brits took that Tiger apart and put it back together again. And put together a lengthy and very detailed intelligence report on the Tiger and its capabilities and gave the US a copy of the report.

The US Armored Command dismissed the report as erronious, over exaggeration by panicked soldiers, and that even if such a tank did exist the Germans would not be able to produce it in numbers. So even though the US had ample warning of the Tiger they did nothing, they felt they would only run into only a few of them. The sobering reality of Kasserine Pass, Sicily and Italy stated tehm scrambling for a fill in. The result was the Sherman "Jumbo", an emergency fill in since the T26 was still in testing.

And do you know why they didnt put a 76mm gun in the Jumbo from the factory? Because the higher ups thought that a 76mm gun in a up armored Sherman would encourage tank crews to go hunting enemy tanks.

[Gamthen]

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

And do you know why they didnt put a 76mm gun in the Jumbo from the factory? Because the higher ups thought that a 76mm gun in a up armored Sherman would encourage tank crews to go hunting enemy tanks.

Oh god, what were they thinking.
We don't want to destroy enemy tanks, NOW DO WE?

[Gamthen]

Originally Posted by KillorLive

Listen very carefully:

If the Pentagon can drag out production time, raise cost 400%, reduce reliability AND effectiveness all at once, it will jump on the opportunity.

ie. The Bradley
They just don't make their minds up...

[Anlushac11]

Originally Posted by Gamthen

Oh god, what were they thinking.
We don't want to destroy enemy tanks, NOW DO WE?

That depends on...

1) If its alive or dead

2) If its pointed at you.

Also the Pentagon figured that it was more economical to ship three or four Shermans instead of 2 Pershings.

Makes you furious to know that we could have had the M-26 available for D-Day and saved many Allied soldiers lives.

[raslin]

I'd just be fine with shermans, M10's, and sappers(sappers who could throw detpacks, either detonated or with a 1.5 second delay. Hell, just make a sapper class with a submachinegun/Carbine Rifle, 3 grenades, 4 detpacks with just a bit more distance(more of a toss than a slide), and binoculars.

[raslin]

Vivre Libre Ou Mourir!

[Oberst Topgun]

@topic:

in january, 1945, the first 20 pershings arrived in europe, and they were better in fighting as their german counterparts, named tiger I and II (mainly their 90mm connon was better than the latest 88mm). so the pershing get his name "tigertamer".
when the war ended, ca 200 pershings were in europe and only one loss is known: a german nashorn blastet a pershing from 250 meters with its first shot which was an direct hit.
in the pazific, there were wuit the same few amount of pershings, than in europe, so i dont see a reason, why not to implement it into the mod, it is only a question of available maps for the right timeline (on both theatres).
besides that, i agree with killor, the allys need a counterpart to the KT, who wants a british firefly, which cannon can take out a tiger, but is so damn weak armored itself ???

just my 0.02$