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striderx2048 January 10th, 2004 11:49 PM

Re: M26 Pershing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blistex˛
Armour Values:

Pershing:

Hull Front: 102mm
Turret Front: 102mm
Hull Side: 76mm
Turret Side: 76mm

King Tiger:

Hull Front: 150mm
Turret Front: 180mm
Hull Side: 80mm
Turret Side: 80mm

Cannon Values: (Both using APCBC rounds)

Pershing:

~100mm @ 2000m

King Tiger:

~130mm @ 2500m

I'm still betting my money on the King Tiger with it's slightly thicker armour, better optics and superior 88mm

but i heard from sources here that the KT used crappier steel then previous panzers.

Blistex˛ January 11th, 2004 12:10 AM

Re: M26 Pershing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by striderx2048
but i heard from sources here that the KT used crappier steel then previous panzers.

That quote is referring to the comparison of the King Tiger's armour to that of the Tiger I which had phenominal armour unlike anything else during the war. The Brindel index rating was the perfect mix of hard facing and flexability, Thus it was costly and time consuming.

The King Tiger's armour although not up to snuff to previous german standards was quite compareable to other allied tanks.

Cochise January 11th, 2004 02:52 PM

Re: M26 Pershing
 
It would be a lame-ass thing indeed to add the Pershing without any maps in the game that the Pershing could be in. It is similar to the Me 262 being in the Bocage map.....


Bleeeecchhhhhhh!

Anlushac11 January 11th, 2004 03:46 PM

Re: M26 Pershing
 
I consider the Pershing equal to the Tiger I or Panther. The only tank I think that compares to the Tiger II ausf B is the IS-III.

Anlushac11 January 11th, 2004 03:51 PM

Re: M26 Pershing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KillorLive
Blistex, that doesn't explain why the armor cracked. It was brittle and rudimentary. It isn't up to snuff to Allied armor, hell, Russia made better steel!


I kinda agree. if you see a penetration of the Tiger I or early Panther armor it looks like the penetrator punched a hole and the edges look kinda melted.

On many of the Tiger II penetrations the armor has shattered or cracked. But I have to wonder, if you increase the thickness of the plate doesnt it become stiffer and more rigid? meaning that the plate is less likely to flex?

AussieZaitsev January 11th, 2004 04:32 PM

Re: M26 Pershing
 
if you were to add the perishing what mpas would you place it on. there are no maps the would fit in with its timeline. unless the team has something up thier sleeves for .6 :naughty:

Anlushac11 January 11th, 2004 04:41 PM

Re: M26 Pershing
 
Aachen and Cologne, 1945 for starters.

Cochise January 11th, 2004 04:52 PM

Re: M26 Pershing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anlushac11
Aachen and Cologne, 1945 for starters.

Right, in we need new maps to showcase this weapon in other words....

Anlushac11 January 11th, 2004 05:07 PM

Re: M26 Pershing
 
I could see them maybe not doing Cologne, but with or without the M-26 Pershing I would be suprised if no one did Aachen.

Blistex˛ January 11th, 2004 06:13 PM

Re: M26 Pershing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KillorLive
Well, yes, but if a 50mm AT gun makes the turret crack...

Oh, the sides and rear of the tank wasn't that thick, and it cracked there too.

If you're referring to the Russian trials then you should take them with a grain of salt. After being pounded with every field and AT-Gun imaginable for a few days the armour tended to get a little weak.

In the field, I doubt that you're gonna see a 50mm do anything to a King Tiger other than piss it off!

Please reveal your sources as to the inferiority of the King Tiger Armour in respects to allied armour quality.

p.s. Don't quote battlefield.ru since many of it's facts are questionable and others have been refuted.


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