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JBOB December 22nd, 2003 06:12 PM

Where is everybody.
 
Hey, I've been trying to find online FH games and I can't. It may be something with my computer or it may just be that everyone else in the world died except me. Please, if anyone gets this message, be it today or a thousand years from now, respond. What is going on? Why can't I find any online games? Why are tumble weeds rolling across my basment floor? Is that a signal that I am the only remaining life form on the Earth? If not, this was a great mod and I would really like to be able to play it again. Thanks, someone, anyone.

striderx2048 December 22nd, 2003 06:28 PM

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wolfgaming.net

Uncle_Sam December 22nd, 2003 06:30 PM

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Yea, I ran into a similar problem today, only loaded 4 servers...and each one had like 3 people in it. What's the deal?

judge reinhold December 22nd, 2003 06:34 PM

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"dc .6 while fh still has the same old stuff" is what happened. Thanks for posting this thread by the way im sure no one could have noticed this on their own.

The Jackalx2k December 22nd, 2003 06:37 PM

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Someone told me that DC had really good infantry combat. Try out Berlin in DC with like 30 people.

Ohioan December 22nd, 2003 06:56 PM

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Everyone's playing DC. And I'm not going to tell you why because it's been said 50 times before. You'll have to wait until FH .6 comes out to see any more people.

Sgt. DinkyDuck December 22nd, 2003 07:06 PM

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well, i tried DC.6 and its the same ole thing, just a few new wepons. im sticking with FH till the end. much better game play, very team oriented

LeopardSeal December 22nd, 2003 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt. DinkyDuck
well, i tried DC.6 and its the same ole thing, just a few new wepons. im sticking with FH till the end. much better game play, very team oriented

Absolutely, there's no comparison between the two. DC still feels really arcade-ish, and there's no sense of the reality and urgency that you get with FH.

However, my FH "Custom Filter" has decided to stop working, so it's harder to find FH servers (except Wolf gaming, of course).

Luscious December 22nd, 2003 07:23 PM

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The Wolf server is the only one with greater than 5 people on it right now. 21st panzer is at zero.

Uncle_Sam December 22nd, 2003 07:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt. DinkyDuck
well, i tried DC.6 and its the same ole thing, just a few new wepons. im sticking with FH till the end. much better game play, very team oriented

Better Gameplay? Hell yea, you said it. There is nothing I love more in DC then having to shoot someone 6 or 7 times for them to die. Honestly, lets see someone take a 7.62 AK round and stay on their feet. All I do is fly the helicopters. In FH, 1 shot and your on the ground, the way It outta be. And like you, they are going to have to pry my cold, dead corpse off the computer before I'll start thinking DC is better.

ManiK December 22nd, 2003 07:27 PM

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there is no everyone, you are the only being, we are all a figment of your imagination

*nurse comes in with a needle* there you go crazy boy, everything is gonna be oooook

LeopardSeal December 22nd, 2003 07:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luscious
The Wolf server is the only one with greater than 5 people on it right now. 21st panzer is at zero.

Personally, I can't stand 21st Panzer, I never play there anymore. There used to be a good German FH server along with another one from Japan(?). I can't seem to find them anymore though.

Uncle_Sam December 22nd, 2003 07:30 PM

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Yea, I used to play the 21pzr server. But ever since they demanded I joined the allies when the teams were going to be 3-21pzr guys vs 20-brits and kicked me because I didnt, I havent gone back. The funny part is, I said "I will when I die" but they didnt want to wait, not to mention when I was kicked there was 1 ticket left before map change, pretty damn stupid if you ask me, especially since I was leading...

ManiK December 22nd, 2003 07:38 PM

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:agreed i hate stupid people

Luscious December 22nd, 2003 07:39 PM

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yep yep....21st panzer has been on a downward slide since it started. Too bad too, its a fast server!

Valdez December 22nd, 2003 07:45 PM

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well I am playing horizions until FH 0.6 comes out, when I have to pay to play... I play my money's worth and how.

Roger Waters December 22nd, 2003 08:05 PM

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dc.6 is really bad i liked dc a lot more before but still fh pwns every other mod

General Taskeen December 22nd, 2003 08:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Waters
dc.6 is really bad i liked dc a lot more before but still fh pwns every other mod

^ what he said ^

FH pwns BF and all other BF mods combined!

judge reinhold December 22nd, 2003 09:03 PM

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It's good to see DC isnt sticking to that whole "desert storm scenario". I mean hey that battle for the oil rig was pretty important back in the 90's and certainly the nimitz class carrier wasnt a tremendous waste of time for a land based war, no sir!

ManiK December 22nd, 2003 09:40 PM

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Dc has gone to hell in a handbasket lately why back in my day *rambling*...
anyways, long story short, is a phrase that dates back a looooong tim*snoring*

Crimman December 22nd, 2003 10:03 PM

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I only am playing DC because im waiting for FH 0.6, but more importantly because its fun to see racist newbs get owned badly, i almost always have gold awards. Thankfully FH made me acurate, thank you, thank you FH!

Mazz December 22nd, 2003 10:11 PM

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the only thing i liked in DC .6 was the gazelle and the EE-9.. and there not even that great. guys use all seeing eye, it shows all the FH servers and connects u right to them. makes it much easier then using the in game browser

Ohioan December 22nd, 2003 10:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle_Sam
Better Gameplay? Hell yea, you said it. There is nothing I love more in DC then having to shoot someone 6 or 7 times for them to die. Honestly, lets see someone take a 7.62 AK round and stay on their feet. All I do is fly the helicopters. In FH, 1 shot and your on the ground, the way It outta be. And like you, they are going to have to pry my cold, dead corpse off the computer before I'll start thinking DC is better.

Come on. It takes 3 rounds from a AK-47 unless you're on the other side of the map. And believe it or not, it takes 3 rounds from FH's STG44 which is essentially the same gun.

DC has a VERY polished mod. It is not realistic at all, but I gotta say getting in a tank and surviving for more than 20 seconds is a refreshing change. DC is balanced and the new maps are simply incredible. Sea Rigs is a monument to the possibilities of the bf1942 engine. .6 has brought about a huge improvement in most aspects of the game. FH, on the other hand, stagnates and festers as broken as it is. If you thought the numbers were bad before for FH, you aint seen nothin yet. Silent Heroes is a great mod, a lot of fun, and truly requries teamplay. BG42 is releasing .9 today, so there's yet another fresh new mod that will deter from FH's players. FH is out of business unless there's some .6 action on the horizon.

Crimman December 22nd, 2003 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by [CNI]Ohioan
Come on. It takes 3 rounds from a AK-47 unless you're on the other side of the map. And believe it or not, it takes 3 rounds from FH's STG44 which is essentially the same gun.

DC has a VERY polished mod. It is not realistic at all, but I gotta say getting in a tank and surviving for more than 20 seconds is a refreshing change. DC is balanced and the new maps are simply incredible. Sea Rigs is a monument to the possibilities of the bf1942 engine. .6 has brought about a huge improvement in most aspects of the game. FH, on the other hand, stagnates and festers as broken as it is. If you thought the numbers were bad before for FH, you aint seen nothin yet. Silent Heroes is a great mod, a lot of fun, and truly requries teamplay. BG42 is releasing .9 today, so there's yet another fresh new mod that will deter from FH's players. FH is out of business unless there's some .6 action on the horizon.

You speak the truth my brother, every blessed word. I just hope this will fuel the engine behind getting FH 0.6 out.

sempai(be) December 23rd, 2003 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by [CNI]Ohioan
FH is out of business unless there's some .6 action on the horizon.

Returned to EOD yesterday , round 10:00 CET there was no one playing.
It's now 9:30 CET and we have 20 players at Wolf and 7 at 21 st Pnzr.

After playing the mod exclusively after release I find myself returning to other mods like EOD and DC because it's just more fun , meaning if you don't like a map you have the choice to switch.
Want to play a 1 map only server , you have them , etc . . . . . . .

Too bad cause FH semi-realism has me hooked.

FH is bleeding fast and needs a "transfusion" aka 0.6 .

Heinrich Blotgrasse December 23rd, 2003 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by judge reinhold
"dc .6 while fh still has the same old stuff" is what happened. Thanks for posting this thread by the way im sure no one could have noticed this on their own.


Thanks for the post Mr Forum Officer. Sif a community. :rolleyes:

MG42Maniac December 23rd, 2003 01:42 AM

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I can see why lots of people are playing DC0.6....Its damm good. Its so much better that FH 0.5e though FH 0.6 will be better than any DC.

oh and all the fags who say you need to put half a mag into someones foot obviously havn't played DC 0.6, the PKM kills with 2 shots to the chest, the shotgun with 1 close range shot, and the AK 47 and M-16A2 kills with 4 rounds or 2 to the head.

sempai(be) December 23rd, 2003 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MG42Maniac
oh and all the fags who say you need to put half a mag into someones foot obviously havn't played DC 0.6, the PKM kills with 2 shots to the chest, the shotgun with 1 close range shot, and the AK 47 and M-16A2 kills with 4 rounds or 2 to the head.

Which is quite realistic , just read "Black Hawk Down" (Mark Bowden)

Here you have US service personall complaining that their new "slap rounds" just weren't able to get the enemy down , several shots had to be fired to get a kill. The bullets would go right tru the bodies.

dRaStiQ December 23rd, 2003 04:04 AM

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Humm yeah
I gotta say DC has got its charms, its polished and its throwaway, u get bored, u have a feck around for 20 mins, leave ur brain at the door, To its credit it is getting the TW up, I have seen servers where 1 man comandeers a 6 man Trans chopper (the beautiful Little bird, god if only FH could realistically have choppers :( ) and spends entire rounds just picking peeps up and dropping them off where they need to be, also the spawn point choppers help as its possible to hover over a base
until a spawn wave hops in and jumps out to cap it ;) but these are very minor Additions compared to what FH is trying to do.

FH = realism, Beauty, Ideas, Teamwork
DC = Brainless, Beauty, polish, arcade

Oxide December 23rd, 2003 04:20 AM

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So we have to argue about this again eh... FH takes less teamwork than DC because you can be axis AT and go Rambo on everyone. Yes I'm being a bit extreme about things, but so are you guys with your stupid bashing of DC. Like some guy said on a Swedish forum, "Flying the Littlebird is better than sex". =P
Come on, let's argue!!!

Ontopic: I'm playing DC and SH, while looking forward to FH 0.6

Beast of War December 23rd, 2003 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sempai(be)
Which is quite realistic , just read "Black Hawk Down" (Mark Bowden)

Here you have US service personall complaining that their new "slap rounds" just weren't able to get the enemy down , several shots had to be fired to get a kill. The bullets would go right tru the bodies.

Then that book is total garbage !

Both 5.56 and 7.62 mm rounds fired from most assault rifles fly at supersonic speed. The bullit shape and size only make a hole of the same size in the human body, it is the supersonic shockwave that tears apart the flesh, organs and bloodvessels wide that kills. The shockwave of a little 5.56 mm bullit can tear a hole size of a fist inside the body.

In mil. service i once was asked ( they call it that, but in fact it was an order ) to shoot at living pigs with a 7.62 mm FAL rifle. That was for an exercise for medic personell, to simulate wounds caused in war. We had to shoot the pigs in the section behind their chest and in their rear body as much as possible. I will spare you the details what that felt like, the screaming of the mortally wounded pigs was horrible, it wasn't funny at all. The medic personell and doctors then tried to patch the pigs up so they would survive their wounds for at least 24 h. I can tell you few pigs survived that amount of time, the bullits caused too much damage. ( the shockwave tearing effect i explained earlier )

Pistol and smg that use pistol ammo cause less damage, because that ammo is sub sonic and won't tear a huge surface of tissue apart, but make only a hole. ( they can do nasty things too if they bounce off the bones ) But with modern smg and pistols like those of FN the diffrence between assault rifle ammo damage becomes less and less.

Damage Jackal December 23rd, 2003 05:14 AM

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dc=shit end of story most servers are empty and most people are waiting for 0.6fh

ManiK December 23rd, 2003 05:30 AM

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Sea Rigs is a monument to the possibilities of the bf1942 engine.
I'll have to agree with you there, Sea Rigs is one badassed map

MG42Maniac December 23rd, 2003 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ManiK_Impressive
I'll have to agree with you there, Sea Rigs is one badassed map


Yeah that map is seriously sweet :dance: :dance: :dance:

http://www.desertcombat.com/ScreenShots/0.6/Rigs_5.jpg

TommyGunDaliani December 23rd, 2003 07:15 AM

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I hate when i get a shot off hit someone from across the map and see him live pisses me off.

Kingrudolf December 23rd, 2003 03:30 PM

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Isn't there a .con file that you needed to change to be able to see servers? You had to change the game ID line from "FH" to "Forgotten Hope" or something.. (?) I sometimes get nothing from other mods either.. ingame browser bug probably. Usually I have to wait a few minutes for all the FH servers to list up. But it's worth it, next time I go to the browser, the old list is still there, I hit refresh "et voila" and theres my new list within a minute. :)

Ohioan December 23rd, 2003 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Of The P!ngs
dc=shit end of story most servers are empty and most people are waiting for 0.6fh

Yeah, imagine that. DC has 4000 servers and 7000 players online. FH has 15 servers and ~100 people online. Tell me, what would YOU rather play? Keep in mind that FH has some shining jewels of servers like 21st Panzer where the admins are 8 years old and ban you for killing them! Or Wolf, with no tk-punishment or kicking, where a single noob can ruin an entire game! Or the BFE server also staffed by ignorant smacktard idiots [22RN] who would rather kick people for cussing than TKing. Especially if the Tker is on the other team.

DC != (does not equal) shit and that's why there's thousands of people playing it. It's a great mod. And when .6 comes out, IF it comes out, no one is even going to care anymore. They're all playing DC now, because FH lagged way behind on getting an essential patch out that would keep it's interest alive through DC6, and through Christmas.

By the way, the Little Bird freakin owns. And DC is getting a LOT better with teamplay. Rarely do you see Hinds without nosegunners or empty blackhawks. DC has enginieered something that genuinely rewards teamplay. The Nosegunners dont suck anymore, blackhawk NEEDS gunners or it's stinger bait, artillery just plain looks sweet so people call for it.

Eglaerinion December 23rd, 2003 05:04 PM

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I play DC regularly although usually it ends in a lot of frustrations, when I played 0.38 I found it pretty good the noobishness and smacktard levels were tolerable but now it's just too much to see everybody walking around with a saw or pkm and just spray and pray. I haven't played one round on Sea Rigs where someone of the opposition didn't get in the defensive guns of the carrier. And I haven't played one single round with at least some decent teamwork. Teamkilling for the ah-6 seems to be going on everywhere. Lately I'm getting called a cheater because I'm pretty good with the SU.
This sort of things and the performance issues of DC causes me to play it less then I used to do. It takes no skill to be good in DC, just get a little bird/tank/su (depending on the map you play) and you can dominate a map. Whereas in FH tanks are taken out easily, planes are harder to fly and harder to kill with, as an infantry men you can turn a battle around on your own. And maybe the most important aspect DC has not the great atmosphere like WW2 and Vietnam mods/games have. After you played with the new goodies for a couple off days it gets boring.

Ohioan December 23rd, 2003 05:31 PM

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WW2 has been done to death. Fully realistic WW2 has been almost done to death as well. It's a fad in the game community and it won't hold unless it has some good games to back it up (which it does). Call of Duty, bf1942, WW2OL, all of those are good games, which is why more and more clones are appearing of the WW2 genre.


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