Finnish stuff

***Skorz*** · August 16th, 2003

Here is some planes that I want to see in FH. All these planes served in FAF (Finnish Air Force).

VL Myrsky II

First flight: 1942
In service: Late 1944
End of production: Late 1944
Number built: 47

Type: Fighter
Engine: 1,065 hp Pratt & Whitney R-1830-SC3G Twin Wasp 14-cylinder radial

Span: 11 m
Length: 8,3 m
Height: 3 m

Weight, empty: 2,332 kg
Weight, loaded: 2,947 kg
Weight, max: 3,211 kg

Max speed: 530 km/h
Ceiling: 8,990 m
Range, endurance: 500 km, 930 km with drop tanks

Armament: 4x12,7 mm machineguns

Blueprints:

Brewster Buffalo

Finland received total 44 Brewster from USA during spring 1940.

Messerschmitt 109G-6

Finland bought total 111 G-6's in years 1943-44.

Fokker D.XII

Finland had bought 7 planes from Holland in late 30's and 35 planes more was built in Finland under license during spring 1939. Plane was one of the most common fighter during The Winter War in Finnish Air Forces (FAF).

Morane MS 406

During The Winter War Finland received total 30 planes from France and later on 1940 20 planes more.

Curtiss Hawk 75A-4

Bristol Blenheim I

British Blenheim I bomber. In 1930ґs 18 planes was bought and during The Winter War Finland received total 22 planes more. Later some tens more was built
under license.

Bristol Blenheim IV

Dornier 17Z-1

Junkers Ju88A-4

24 planes was bought from Germany in year 1943.

Finnish Coastal Defence Ships:

Ilmarinen

Blueprints:

Väinämöinen

Blueprints:

More pics:
http://www.warship.get.net.pl/Finlan...en_photos.html
http://www.warship.get.net.pl/Finlan..._armament.html

Links:
http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/faf.html
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/2072/Finnaf.html

***Wiking9*** · August 16th, 2003

I agree with Skorz. The Finns were very intruiging during WW2, and I for 1 appreciate the ferocity in which they fought.

The 109 and Junkers JU-88A would just need a simple reskin, and Skorz has provided pics of other Finnish weapons (anti-tank rifles, LMG's, etc.).

I realize it may not be priority to the team, but definately somethign for the future.

***LIGHTNING [NL]*** · August 16th, 2003

al i can say is:

Fokker D21!

and like skorz said: 'finnish stuff!'

***Skorz*** · August 16th, 2003

Finnish weapons:

Suomi M/31

Suomi M/31 SMG with 70-round drum magazine.

Suomi M/31 SMG with 50-round box magazine. Notice muzzle-break in end of barrel.

Calibre: 9 mm x 19 Parabellum
Length: 870 mm / 925 mm
Barrel length: 314 mm
Weight: 4,72 kg / 4,9 kg
Fire-rate: 900/minute
Magazine: boxes: 20, 50, drums: 40, 70
Abbreviations: "9,00 kp/31" and "900 KP 31"
Country of origin: Finland
Prototype: 1931

Bunker version of Suomi M/31

Top one is early version, mass production version down.

Calibre: 9 mm x 19 Parabellum
Length: 740 mm
Barrel length: 314 mm
Weight: 4,35 kg
Fire-rate: 900/minute
Magazine: boxes: 20, 50, drums: 40, 70
Abbreviations: "900 kp/31 korsu" and "900 KORSU KP 31"
Country of origin: Finland
Prototype: 1939
Production: 500 manufactured at 1941.

Lahti-Saloranta M/26

Calibre: 7,62 mm x 54 R
Length: 1180 mm
Barrel length: 500 mm
Weight: 9,3 kg
Fire-rate: 450 - 550/minute
Magazine: arch: 20
Official abbreviations: "7,62 pk/26" and "762 PK 26"
Country of origin: Finland
Prototype: 1925
Production: 1930 - 1942

Lahti L-35

Calibre: 9 mm x 19 Parabellum
Length: 240 mm
Barrel length: 120 mm
Weight: 1250 g
Magazine: 8, removable
Official abbreviations: "9,00 pist/35" and "900 PIST 35"
Country of origin: Finland
Prototype: last at 1935
Production: 1939 - early 1950's. Total production about 9000.

Maxim M/32-33

Calibre: 7,62 mm x 54 R
Length: 118 cm
Barrel length: 72 cm
Weight: 24,0 kg
Fire-rate: 600 or 850/minute
Ammunition belts: 200 round metal belt
Mount: Finnish M/33 tripod: 30 kg
Production: About 1200(?) made between 1933 – 1944
Country of origin: Finland

Antitank-rifle L-39

Calibre: 20 mm x 138 B (Rheinmetall-Borsig) (*)
Length: 224 cm
Barrel length: 130 cm
Weight: 49,5 kg/51,4 kg
Fire-rate: 15/30 shots/minute (practical/maximum)
Muzzle velocity: 800 – 840 m/sec
Magazine: 10, removable box
Maximum range: 6,5 km
Ammunition weight: 337 g (AP)
Bullet weight: 152 g (AP)
Ammunition types: AP, APCR, HE, Phosphorous
Basic principle: Semiautomatic, gas-action weapon
Country of Origin: Finland

AA/AT-rifle L-39/44

Calibre: 20 mm x 138 B (Rheinmetall-Borsig)
Length: 224 cm
Barrel length: 130 cm
Weight: 48 kg
AA-mount weight: 9 kg
Fire-rate: 80 – 100 shots/minute
Muzzle velocity: 800 – 840 m/sec
Magazine: 10, removable box
Maximum range: 6,5 km
Ammunition weight: 337 g (AP)
Bullet weight: 152 g (AP)
Ammunition types: AP, APCR, HE, Phosphorous
Basic principle: Selective fire gas-action weapon
Country of Origin: Finland

Molotov Cocktail

Mixes used in molotov cocktails:

Petrol + tar
Petrol + kerosene + tar
Waste alcohol + kerosene + tar

Satchel Charge

These were manufactured in three sizes:

2 kg satchel charge (with 2 kg of TNT)
3 kg satchel charge (with 3 kg of TNT)
4 kg satchel charge (with 4 kg of TNT)

Btw, have anyone here ever seen "The Winter War" movie?

***TommyGunDaliani*** · August 16th, 2003

suomi is better then ppsh then russians are just copying bastards

***caeno*** · August 17th, 2003

JEE! me want more finnish weapons too

***MkH^*** · March 17th, 2004

This was the most appropriate existing topic I could find, conserning the following issue..

What the hell has happened to Finnish insignia on vehicles!? I just played Karelia, and there were no symbols or markings whatsoever on Finnish vehicles! The Finnish swastika has NOTHING to do with nazism. Goddamn. That was the last bit of Finnish there was even left on "Finnish" troops. At least the vehicles were correct.. Damn, you might aswell remove the whole country from the mod. Currently it's a discrace to Finnish troops. I know it's just a game, but removing those symbols is the same as directly linking Finland to Nazism. Finland was using the symbol before the NAZI party was found, and has in no way any links to it, he who believes otherwise is a fool.

edit:

Sigh.. wrong area. Well, I guess it doesn't really matter. All I want is an answer from the devs.

***LIGHTNING [NL]*** · March 17th, 2004

A swastica is a swastica and they are illegal in Germany, no matter how you use them or what you draw them on.

***RandomChurch*** · March 17th, 2004

I'd rather see the Italians, and French and more Polish stuff before they add the Finns.

***judge reinhold*** · March 17th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by MkH^

This was the most appropriate existing topic I could find, conserning the following issue..

What the hell has happened to Finnish insignia on vehicles!? I just played Karelia, and there were no symbols or markings whatsoever on Finnish vehicles! The Finnish swastika has NOTHING to do with nazism. Goddamn. That was the last bit of Finnish there was even left on "Finnish" troops. At least the vehicles were correct.. Damn, you might aswell remove the whole country from the mod. Currently it's a discrace to Finnish troops. I know it's just a game, but removing those symbols is the same as directly linking Finland to Nazism. Finland was using the symbol before the NAZI party was found, and has in no way any links to it, he who believes otherwise is a fool.

edit:

Sigh.. wrong area. Well, I guess it doesn't really matter. All I want is an answer from the devs.

you could have made a new thread instead of bumping this ancient one. It's only annoying when people make new threads about stupid things like the maus and adding the m16 to FH; your topic is good though