The Pacific War 2: U.S. Marine Corps Infantry Weapons
 

So here's the second installment. I plan to cover all Pacific War armies in time (US Army, Australia, Britain, China, Russia, Netherlands-KNIL, etc).

Springfield M1903

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Before the Garand, there was the Springfield. Based on the ubiquitous Mauser designs of the latter part of the 19th century, the M1903 was being phased out in favor of the M1 Garand by 1941. However, in December 1941 the Springfield was still the primary weapon of the US Marine Corps, and would remain so until late 1942, seeing service from Wake Island to Guadalcanal. Despite being phased out of service, Remington manufactured 350,000 new rifles in 1941. Many of these would be passed on to Free French and Brazilian forces.

The gun was chambered in .30-06 Springfield ammunition with a 5-round box magazine loaded by a stripper clip. Like most rifles of its day, it could be fitted with a spigot-type grenade launcher. Most guns manufactured after 1941 were of the M1903A3 variety with a different rear sight.

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M1903A1 on the left, M1903A3 on the right.

The M1903A4 sniper variant with 2.2x scope saw heavy use throughout the war with sniper and scout units in the Army. The Marine Corps refused to field the weapon, preferring the M1903A1 with an Unertl 8x scope. The Marine Corps did not adopt the sniper variant of the M1 Garand until the early 1950s.

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M1903A1 with 8x Unertl scope

M1 Garand

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Marines carry the M1 Garand into battle at Tarawa, Nov. 1943

We all know what it looks like. We all know what it did. We all know how it was the first semi-automatic rifle fielded by an army as its standard infantry weapon, how its ammo system worked, how you had to fire the entire clip before reloading, etc.

The Marine Corps adopted the rifle completely by late 1942. Its high rate of fire proved crucial in close quarters jungle fighting, being far superior to bolt action weapons.

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The M1 could be fitted with a variety of bayonets.

The M1 could fire rifle grenades using a special ammunition round and a special spigot attachment which diverted the gas used to cycle the bolt so that the grenade could still be launched. Some pictures from Inert-Ord.net - A Varied and Detailed Display of Collectable Military Ordnance will demonstrate:

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M1 Garand grenade launcher attachments

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From Left to Right, M11 practice round, M17 fragmentation round using a MkII frag grenade as a warhead, M9 High Explosive Antitank Round (penetrated 2 inches of armor), M11A3 practice round, M19A1 green parachute flare, M22 smoke round, M29 practice round (Korean War era, not used during WW2)

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Korean War era picture showing an M1 Garand ready to fire a grenade.

M1 Carbine

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Marine with an M1 Carbine on Guam, 1944

First fielded in July 1942, the M1 Carbine was issued primarily to infantry officers, NCOs, ammunition bearers, artillery spotters, and other men needing a compact weapon. Around 6 million were manufactured from 1942 to 1945.

The M1 carbine fired a 7.62x33mm cartridge in semi-automatic mode from a 15 or 30 rd box magazine. Late in the war, the M2 Carbine with select semi-auto/full auto fire appeared, but it was only used in small numbers.

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M2 Carbine

M1941 Johnson

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A semi-automatic rifle which loaded from the side, the M1941 lost out to the M1 Garand in the contest to become the Army's next rifle. However, in 1941 the Dutch government ordered 70,000 Johnson rifles for the Dutch East Indies Army. The Dutch East Indies were occupied before the guns could be delivered, and they were taken over by the US Marine Corps. About 30,000 rifles would be produced during the war.

The M1941 had good accuracy and less recoil than the Garand, however it had many intricate small parts that were easily lost. .30-06 ammunition was loaded into a fixed rotary magazine which held ten rounds. The magazine was loaded using M1903 stripper clips.

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Loading the M1941 magazine

The Johnson rifle was adopted as the primary weapon of the Paramarines of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Parachute Battalions. They would conduct landings at Gavutu in support of the Guadalcanal landings, as well as fighting on the ground in Guadalcanal and conducting raids on Choiseul before being assinged to Bougainville.

M1A1 / M1928 Thompson Submachine Gun

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M1 Thompson in use on Okinawa

We all know it, we all love it. The Marines began using the M1928 Tommy Gun in Nicaragua in 1928. However, the Thompson was never a ubiquitous weapon with the US Marine Corps, as it was found that the jungle often stopped the low velocity .45cal rounds before they found their target. The Thompson also sounded similar to the Japanese Type 92 machine gun, running the risk of friendly fire incidents at night. It was used on a limited-issue basis.

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M1928 Tommy Gun

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M50 Reising

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The M50 Reising was rushed into service in 1942 as a stopgap measure for Marines in the Solomon Islands who found the Thompson unsuited for jungle combat but were in need of a submachine gun. The Reising was issued to many junior officers and NCOs before the M1 Carbine was fielded.

The Reising used .45 ACP ammo in a 20 round box magazine. The gun had a complex breech system involving a series of levers which easily rusted in the jungle. This led to frequent jams. The receiver easily took in dirt and the magazine jammed, exacerbating the problem.

The gun was hated and often gotten rid of at the quickest opportunity. Lt. Col. Merritt Edison of the Marine Raiders ordered his unit to throw their Reisings into a river and find better weapons. The weapon was quickly phased out in favor of the M1 Carbine. Many Reisings were sent home to equip police forces guarding strategic assets on the home front. Incidentally, outside of the jungle conditions the Reising's internal workings worked well, and this led to the weapon being used by police forces for many years after the war.

The M55 was a version with a folding stock was issued to Paramarines, however, the cheap stock folded under pressure and the guns were quickly withdrawn from service.

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M55 Reising

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Navajo code talkers on Bougainville. Second man from the right has an M50 Reising.

M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle

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Another ubiquitous weapon, the M1918 had a reputation as a "long range bullet sprayer" and it was heavily used in the Pacific for both its rate of fire and stopping power. The point and tail men of a jungle patrol were commonly equipped with the BAR. The Marine Corps typically issued two BARs for each infantry squad.

The M1918 fired .30-06 rounds from a 20 round box magazine. Fire was selectable between auto and semi-auto. The gun could be fitted with a bipod.

M1941 Johnson Light Machine Gun

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Based on the M1941 Johnson Rifle, the Johnson LMG saw similar limited use, with only 9,500 being produced. The gun featured an adjustable rate of fire from 200 to 600 RPM. The weapon fired .30-06 rounds from a 20 round side feeding magazine. The weapon had a very low recoil due to the in-line stock design.

The gun was not widely adopted. The Dutch government had placed orders before the Japanese invasion that were never filled, and the surplus guns were delivered to the US Marine Corps, where they were used to equip Paramarines units, where they were used alongside the M1941 Johnson Rifle.

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Marine with the M1941 in 1943

Browning M1917 Machine Gun

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Originally designed for use in World War 1, the M1917 water-cooled .30cal machine gun was still in use during the Second World War and into the Korean and Vietnam wars as well. The M1917 was a belt-fed gun, which was usually deployed in a sustainable-fire mode due to its weight (42 kg including tripod). The gun was crewed with four men: The gunner, assistant, and two men to carry water and ammunition.

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Marines use the M1917 during the Battle of Cape Gloucester, Jan 1 1944

The M1917 could also be used as an anti-aircraft gun with a special sight.

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Norwegian troops using the M1917 as an antiaircraft gun outside Narvik, 1940

Browning M1919 Machine Gun

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The air-cooled variant of the M1917, the M1919 .30cal was used in aircraft, on vehicles and as a tripod mounted machine gun. It was served with a crew of two, a gunner and an ammo assistant. A highly effective weapon, the M1919 had a maximum range of 1500 yards and a rate of fire of 600 RPM.

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Marines use the M1919A4 on Roi-Namur Island, February 1944

AN/M2 Stinger

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The M1919 was sometimes field modified to be bipod-portable with the stock of a BAR 1918. The gun was modified to an ROF of 1200-1400 RPM.

M1 Flamethrower

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The M1 Flamethrower was first fielded in early 1942 by Army and Marine Corps units. Around 14,000 were manufactured. The weapon had enough fuel for around 10 seconds of continuous burn, or 5 2-second bursts.

The M1 was operated by two men, one who operated the device and another who opened the valves to allow the weapon to fire. The M1 had an electric ignition which sometimes failed to ignite.

Flamethrowers were heavily used by American forces during the Pacific War to clear Japanese pillboxes and defensive positions.

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M2-2 Flamethrower

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The M2-2 flamethrower was an improvement over the M1. The M2 weighed 68 lbs filled, carried 4 gallons of fuel and had a burn time of 10-20 seconds and a range of 20-40 yards. Ignition was provided by a system of blank cartridges firing in a cylinder.

The M2-2 was introduced in 1944. It was extremely common, with each Marine infantry squad receiving one M2-2.

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M2-2 Flamethrower in use on Iwo Jima

Winchester M12 "Trench Gun"

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For close-quarters jungle combat, many Marines took to using shotguns. Around 80,000 Winchester M12 12-gauge pump action shotguns were purchased by the US government for the Army and Marine Corps. They were largely used in the Pacific theater. The M12 carried 6 rounds in a tublar magazine plus an additional round in the chamber.

Ithaca 37 shotgun

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The Ithaca 37 was another model of 12-gauge pump action shotgun used in combat in the Pacific. It had a lesser capacity of only 4 rounds.

Colt M1911 .45cal

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o..._Pistol_US.jpgWe all know it we all love it...generally an officer or pilot's weapon.

M1917 Revolver .45cal
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Smith & Wesson M10 Revolver .38 Special
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These guns were pretty much THE handguns in the USA in the 1940s. No need to dwell on these six-shooters except to note that officers sometimes preferred them to the M1911.

M1 Bazooka

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The famous M1 Bazooka was first used in the North Africa campaign in late 1942. The Bazooka was deployed in the Pacific against Japanese bunkers and tanks. Early Bazookas had problems with moisture and humidity, however these were overcome with the M1A1. Lack of enemy armor limited the deployment of the Bazooka in the Pacific.

The Bazooka was crewed by two men, one to fire and one to load.

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A Marine Bazooka team which has just knocked out two Japanese tanks on Saipan, June 16, 1944.

Mk II Fragmentation Grenade

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The "Pineapple of Death" containing 2oz of TNT. Early models issued in the Pacific were painted yellow because they thought it would better camouflage them in a jungle environment.

Other hand grenades such as smoke and white phosphorous were deployed as well.

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Ka-Bar Knife

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A knife famous for its use by the Marine Corps in World War 2.

U.S. Marine Raider Stiletto

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The Stiletto knife was not designed as an edged blade, the sole purpose of its slender blade was as a fighting knife. It was issued to Marine Corps Raider Battalion and Canadian Airborne units. A rare knife today, it is much sought after by collectors.

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Uniforms

The Marine Corps began the war wearing simple olive drab uniforms. By mid 1942, the Corps had adopted the P42 two piece jungle suit with a reversible camouflage pattern, tan/brown on one side and green on the other.

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It was discovered that olive drab actually provided better concealment than camo when moving. Camo provided better concealment when holding still.

Because of this it was not uncommon to see the old HBT field uniform being worn alongside the P42 camo:

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The Marine Corps used the M1 steel helmet. From late 1943 onwards, the helmet was covered with a cloth camouflage color. The helmet cover also had the reversible brown/green coloration. The 1944 version had slits to allow foliage to be placed inside the helmet. Regardless of which uniform was worn, the camo cover on the helmet was almost universal.

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Now for a bit of commentary on weapons.

Most video games do a pretty good job with USMC weapons. They show lots of BARs and M1 Garands. Where they mess up is with the Thompson. There should be far fewer Thompsons and far more M1 Carbines given to Marines in video games. Early in the war (Guadalcanal) the M50 Reising should be used instead of the M1 Carbine.

The most common weapons for Guadalcanal and earlier should be the M1903, M50 Reising and BAR 1918 with a few Thompsons and shotguns. For Tarawa and other campaigns after Guadalcanal, the M1 Carbine should replace the Reising and the Garand should replace the M1903. M2-2 flamethrowers should become common as well.

Also, if special units such as the Paramarines are portrayed, they should definitely receive their distinctive Johnson Rifles and light machine guns.

Well that concludes tonight's presentation on the U.S. Marine Corps. Tune in tomorrow for the infantry weapons and uniforms of the United States Army in the Pacific Theater.

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What about the Winchester 1897 (M97) trench gun?

That guy posing in the uniform freaks me out. How he changes uniforms but remains in exactly the same place makes me wonder if it is shopped.

After performing some side to side comparisons I have reached the conclusion that they are indeed doctored. He does a good job though.

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Glad to see you got the Johnson in there. I'm going to be anoyed if FH over-looks it once again.

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You forgot some stuff :P


Thompson M1928 with horizontal grip.
http://www.paratrooper.fr/catalog/im...hompsonM28.jpg

Boys anti tanks rifle:
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/Boys1.jpeg

M9 bazooka
http://www.geocities.com/Augusta/8172/m9.jpg

US M1917
http://www.secondeguerre.net/images/...fu/usm1917.jpg

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I'm not aware of the M1917 being used by the Marine Corps.

Does anyone have any more info on the use of the Boys Rifle by the USMC? I can't find much.

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Not much results either. According to wikipedia they nicknamed it the Elephant Gun. But there are so many EG's =p
This is a small text I found, not really clearing things up though.

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Yeah, um, it is photoshopped.

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Don't Forget the Combat Machete :D

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The Johnson lmg was in FH1, on Guadalcanal.

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I think that he meant the rifle. And wasn't the Johnson on Ortona as well?

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The Johnson was given to Canadian troops in vanilla Bf1942 for some reason. In reality, outside of the USMC it was only used by the joint US/Canadian 1st Special Service Force.

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BF1942 holds many mysteries. No4 for US, Russia. K98 for Japan. Oh and Japans also used to have StG44 instead of Type99. MP18 for Russia and they used to have the BAR instead of DP. And the T34/76 is just a 85 with shortened barrel. All those things.

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Bar, bazooka, and Thompson for the British.

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According to American Mk.II Hand Grenade - Inert-Ord.Net
"Yellow was the color code for high explosive ordnance at this time and HE grenades were painted accordingly. Understandably this was found to be an impractical color due to its high visibility to the enemy.
In 1942 the the color was changed to "olive drab" (OD) with a small yellow band. With many thousands of yellow grenade bodies in inventory they were repainted, green over the yellow. "

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Yeah, what kind of game gives the Brits a thompson?

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Gimme the flamethrower, its just sooo beautiful :devil:

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:( Ok, i shall rephrase. It shows a Thompson as their main submachine gun, as opposed to the Sten.

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StG44 at Gazala. =p

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And essentially every other battle.

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Thats IMO the most funniest battle with a StG44.
The StG44 shouldn't even being ingame. It's BF 1942..
But I forgive them for their ignorance.

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You can pick fun at them all you want but it was never about being historically accurate in the Vanilla game, it was about being balanced and fair for all sides. And what better way to achieve this than use the same weapons for each army no matter the nationality.

Besides, they were planning on releasing far more diverse set of weapons but scrapped the project when BFV Development was undertaken at DICE because EA demanded it.

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Yea, the rifle.

Out of the few times I've been able to handle one in real life, I must say its an amazing rifle. Far better balanced then the Garand. It also is just such a comfortable rifle... even more so then a K31.

So yea, if FH2 team doesn't include this rifle in the Pacific theater, I'm going to sue the mustache off of Lobo.

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Balancing could have been done different. They have not done it efficient.

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I got the information from USMC Combat Infantry Equipement of World War II by Alec S.Tulkoff

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Agreed (though I would have personally integrated a form of balancing that made use of historical accuracy; this is another subject). Battlefield 1942 was never (stated in interviews) about historical accuracy, which is why I don't tend to poke fun at it when I point out the errors (as opposed to the way I trash Treyarch's efforts since, though they are more accurate than BF1942, all they do is constantly advertise and gloat about their attention to historical accuracy). But I never knew this about the diverse set of weapons thing. Do you have a link to an interview or something where they state these plans? I would love to see when they said so.

Which is not really much of an error since the Sten didn't surpass the M1928 Thompson (though the model in the game is the M1... but so it was in Infinity Ward's Call of Duty 2, I think, as well) in widespread British service until the Normandy campaign, while BF1942 only portrayed the British in North Africa (and the Battle of Britain, at which time the Sten wasn't yet in service). At most, you would have had a couple of Stens in use in the Tunisian campaign, which isn't portrayed by BF1942, and where I wouldn't doubt the possibility that the French, to whom many Stens were issued in emergency due to the complete lack of submachine guns in the French Army, might have used them more than the British.

Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome gave both the French and the British the Sten, which is actually somewhat of an error, since both armies fighting in the Italian campaign used the Thompson guns more. I don't even think the Sten was standard issue to the British Eighth Army in that campaign, while whatever Stens were in French service were most likely phased completely out of service in favor of Thompsons since by then Lend-Lease had kicked in for them. Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons gave the British commandos the silenced Sten.

Now then, to the original posts:

Good stuff!

I think we all know the M1 Garand was actually reloadable mid-clip (using a completely new clip; possible to top it off, but not likely done), but that it just wasn't done that often. Concerning the Springfield Unertl sniper, I've read that the Marines used the inferior Springfield M1903A4 alongside the Unertl sniper as well, not that they outright declined to issue it. That seems to be the claim of US M1903-A4 & USMC M1903-A1/Unertl and of USMC MODEL 1941 SNIPER RIFLE I don't know enough about the subject to be able to say for myself.

Also, any information as to the dates the Unertl and the M1903A4 sniper rifles entered service? Neither were around at the time of the United States' entry of the war, and I'm not sure which came first. That Olive Drab site says the Unertl entered service in November 1943 and that the M1903A4 was developed in 1942, but I'm not sure of the veracity of these claims.

I assume initially the Marines used more of the original M1918 BAR than the A1 and A2? Also, I know the British used some BAR 1918's (like in the Home Guard?), but I'm not sure where or how many...

Finally, this one has been eating away at me: What are the differences between the M1 and the M1A1 Bazooka, and when did the M1A1 enter service relative to the M1? During Operation Torch and for the beginning of the Tunisian campaign, wasn't the M1 the only version of the bazooka to exist?

Now for games! In Call of Duty: World at War, the Marines get the M1 Garand (bayonet and non-bayonet), the M1 Carbine (and I think the M2 is an upgrade in multiplayer), the M1928A1 Thompson, the BAR 1918 (dunno the variant), the Springfield Unertl sniper rifle (and unscoped in multiplayer), the Colt M1911(A1?), the .38 revolver (multiplayer only I think), Mk II nades, some smoke grenade, M2 flamethrower, the Browning M1919 and the M9 Bazooka. Pretty typical.

Medal of Honor Pacific Assault had the Springfield 1903 (unscoped and Unertl I think), the M1 Garand (with bayonet), the M1 Carbine, the M1928A1 Thompson, the M55 Reising (yay!), the BAR 1918, the Colt M1911A1, the M1917 revolver, Mk II nades (painted yellow I think), and I don't remember if any heavy/medium machine guns were used, except I remember the Lewis gun being in there. Other than the M55 Reising, the game's arsenal for the Marines was rather uninspiring.

No Johnson rifles or LMGs, except BF1942 which, as has been pointed out, weirdly gave the Johnson M1941 LMG to the Canadians at Caen.

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Actually, there is a Johnson lmg in pacific assault. In one of the Night levels where you defend that ridge, an american bot carries it. He is invincible, so you can`t take it for yourself.

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You are right! I just remembered that and was coming back to edit the post, but no need for that now.

Actually, you can use the Johnson LMG in the game... at least you can in the Director's Edition. I'm not sure, but I remember reading about some differences between it and the normal edition of the game, and that that might have been one of them (though patch 1.2 might have changed that?).

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http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/mo...px-Johnson.png

and here it is.

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Score one for Pacific Assault!

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That's actually pretty accurate for most Marines to not include the Johnson Rifle or LMG...they were only used by special units.

The M1A1 entered service in 1943, and the M9 in 1944.

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M1 Bazooka

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M1A1 Bazooka. Front hand grip deleted, sights adjusted and provision for a blast shield added.

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M9 Bazooka adopted in 1944. Tube could be broken down for transport, had a small generator instead of batteries for the electrical firing system, different shoulder piece.

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I just tried to go back to the interview with DICE where they stated their plans after 1.61b, unfortunately I got a 404 error, seems as though the web pages are long gone. But from what I can remember there was planned 1.61c which included more diverse weapon set for each nationality, unfortunately after BFV and soon later BF2 started being developed DICE abandoned the patch.

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I thought BFV was developed by DICE Canada while BF1942 was made by DICE Sweden?

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It doesnt matter, when word comes down from EA to stop spending money towards development of a game, they do.

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Flamethrower..mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...Corps/LP24.jpg

I have found a picture of Marines with a Boys Rifle, but no other info.

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http://www.nps.gov/archive/wapa/inde...ages/fig15.jpg


Look carefully
http://www.nps.gov/archive/wapa/inde...ages/fig28.jpg

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I think an un-usable Boys rifle is in Medal of Honor Pacific Assault now that I think about it. I remember picking it up in the single player and thinking "What do I do with this?" I don't think it was used for anything in the game.

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Yeah, is there. I did figured out how to use it, but it sucked even against the side armour of jap tanks, and was next to impossible to deploy right.

Re: The Pacific War 2: U.S. Marine Corps Infantry Weapons
 

In pacific assault I use the boys against infantry

Re: The Pacific War 2: U.S. Marine Corps Infantry Weapons
 

I think the M1928A1 and A2 (the one with the horizontal grip) was used more
in the pacific because it could use the 50 round drum, and it was better for jungle use. The M1928 (pistol grip) was used right after Peral Harbor when the Japanese invaded Midway, and Wake Island, and all the other islands that the US were holding, because M1928 was standad issue in the Marine Corp during the 1930's, and when they changed it, the the M1928A1 didn't get to those islands.

I think that was it, I'm not entirley sure, so correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: The Pacific War 2: U.S. Marine Corps Infantry Weapons
 

The 28A1 with vertical grip and horizontal grip were both used, the difference in grips is just that,a difference, one is horizontal one is vertical, we may see a 1928A1 with a smooth barrel and compensator and horizontal grip, then we may see another 28A1 with a finned barrel, compensator and vertical grip. Same gun, different grip, different barrel style. Doesnt make that much of a difference. 1928s and 28A1s saw service through the entire war, despite there being more M1s and M1A1s the 28s were kept.

As for the 1903A1 with a scope being preferred to the 1903A3 w/ scope and 1903A4, theres a very good reason for that. 1903A1s used by the marines were rifles with star gauged barrels. Star gauged barrels are barrels that have met tolerances higher than other barrels, ie muzzle conformity, groove consistency, in short, its more accurate barrel than a standard one. 1903A3s choosen for sniper service and later 1903A4s, werent handpicked as such, they were regular rifles that were pulled off the assembly line, turned into snipers and shoved out the door. Im not hitting on all 03A3 snipers or A4s but if you put majority of them up against an 03A1 with a star gauged barrel, you might find the A3 and A4 in the dust.