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Scharfschütze-Snoop September 22nd, 2007 05:07 PM

My suggestions
 
Hi Forgotten Hope mackers. FH for Battlefield 1942 is very good and nice.
I have suggestions for the new Forgotten Hope.

- Havilland Mosqouto
- Handley Page hallifax
- XF-85 Goblin
- B 29 "Super f....
- T95/T28
- Short Sunderland
- Kawasaki Ki-45 "Toryo"
- Arado Ar 17
- Messerschmitt 323
- Heinke HE 111Z
- M3 Grant
- Ft 17
- Railroad guns like the German "Dora":cool:

Belgian Counbtry's like Antwerp and Kortrijk.

wjlaslo September 22nd, 2007 05:24 PM

[quote=Scharfschütze-Snoop;3939018]Hi Forgotten Hope mackers. FH for Battlefield 1942 is very good and nice.
I have suggestions for the new Forgotten Hope.

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- Havilland Mosqouto
I seriously doubt that they will EVER put something that is important as the Mosquito. They'd rather put in things that were never used in combat, I'm sure.

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- Handley Page hallifax
Another medium bomber, I'm sure Taranov knows about it.

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- XF-85 Goblin
It's from Secret Weapons. Therefore, DO NOT suggest it.

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- B 29 "Super f....
Do a little research. The runway length for this thing is about the size of the FH map. No way it's getting in.

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- T95/T28
Two were made. Obviously, one of them MUST have seen action defending its factory in...Kansas...yeah...

Don't ever suggest things from SWWWII again.

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- Short Sunderland
See idea about the Halibag.

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- Kawasaki Ki-45 "Toryo"
Unless there is a bomber-killing map in FH2 for the Pacific, this is not needed. Even then probably not.

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- Arado Ar 17
Listen, I know this is hard for everyone to understand. But DON'T

Post things that Taranov knows about

Post things that we will not put in a theater until two years later.

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- Messerschmitt 323
Too big for FH maps.

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- Heinke HE 111Z
Used as a glider tug for the previous object. Again, is useless.

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- M3 Grant
Find out what's in FH before you start posting suggestions...It's already ingame...

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- Ft 17
Long long way into the future. Suggest when we get there.

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- Railroad guns like the German "Dora":cool:
Read sticky.

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Originally Posted by NoCoolOnesLeft
2. The Dora or similar rediculously oversized railway-bound WMD's. I really, really dont care if these things can fire shells the sizes of a house for miles. They take about half an hour or more to reload the damn thing, and secondly, BF2 map sizes are much, much smaller than the range required for this weapon.

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Belgian Counbtry's like Antwerp and Kortrijk.
Belgian Counbtry's?

If you mean countries then I don't think you understand what the FH devs are going for. They will put as many countries in as possible.

STICKES ARE YOUR FRIENDS, so is the SEARCH button.

torenico September 22nd, 2007 06:03 PM

sticky is my bext friend :)

some vehicles are good!!

yah.. is true..

the DORA is impossible.. because it have a laaage reload time..

and if you miss a shot.. u are dead.. and the animatios.. how u can do it?? the guy using the dora?? his animation... sorry but that idea sucks

i know.. on a sticky says please dont post "add my nation" because needs voices, vehicles, maps, uniforms, weapons..

so i like the B29 super fortress. and the mosquito (because argentinians used mosquitos :P)

cya

Anlushac11 September 22nd, 2007 06:32 PM

I agree the Mosquito should be in. Both the FB and NF versions.

The Handley Page Halifax was a Heavy bomber that fought alongside the Lancaster to the end of the war.

Sunderland only useful on early maps, after that it became a glider tug and IIRC paratrooper jump aircraft.

XF-85 Goblin, B-29, and T-95? No...just no. Been playing too much Secret Weapons me thinks.

I would love to see a Ki-45 Toryu in FH2. It was used as a ground attack and santi-shiping aircraft which would serve it well in FH2.

The Me-323 was originally designed and put in FH but never used because it had some bugs and wouldnt work.

I have no idea what a Arado AR17 is. I looked online and found a picture mislabeled as a AR17 but was actually a AR234B jet bomber. It is in FH.

I agree that the He-111Z is pointless.

M3 Grant will be in FH2, screenshots already exist.

I would love to see the FT17 in game since it was built under license by several countries and saw combat in WW2.

No railway guns. They are big enough TO BE A LEVEL, not to be in one.

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Belgian Counbtry's like Antwerp and Kortrijk.
:clueless:

AND PLAY NICE WITH THE NOOBS. NO ABUSIVE FLAMING...at least for another week. And then not abusive.

Johannes September 22nd, 2007 07:30 PM

Yeah, the FT-17 was used by many countries, not just France. Poland, for example, had a bunch they used, as did China (or at least one of the warlords I think). Romania had a few, but I think they were only used for training purposes. I'm sure there's a list of other countries that used them somewhere out there.

Another cool thing about the FT-17 is that it came in two varieties. One was the Hotchkiss M1914 machine gun version, which had just that MG (along with updated MGs as the years went by; this version would be like the Matilda I), and the other type fired primarily 37 mm HE shells. I'm not sure as to the availability of AP shells for the FT-17.

In terms of usage by France, the FT-17 saw action during WW2 in mainland France, North Africa (Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia), and Indochina (against the Japanese and Thai).

FlyGuy45 September 22nd, 2007 08:10 PM

Jesus Wjaslo, leave the kid alone.

I agree with Anlushac on most of his points.

FT17 it the best thing ever.

SteelSabre September 22nd, 2007 08:25 PM

Yeah Wjaslo needs to CHILL.

jumjum September 22nd, 2007 10:01 PM

Ouch. wjaslo2nd is my man, but that was a tad harsh. I thought it was very interesting that Scharfschutze-Snoop is from Ypres.

The town was an important commercial center before WWI and had some beautiful structures. It formed part of a small but vital salient that the British held. Three very big and extremely violent battles/offensives centered on Ypres, and it was open to German fire from three sides for four years. It's easy to see how it was virtually turned to dust over the four years of the war.

Scharfschutze-Snoop (oh Lord I hope that's not a sly way to work in an "SS" name), please tell us about Ypres today. Was it able to regain its pre-war commercial status? Did the war completely destroy the cloth trade, etc.?


Pietje September 23rd, 2007 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wjlasloThe2nd (Post 3939046)
Used as a glider tug for the previous object. Again, is useless.

Actually, the Messerschmitt 323 wasnt a glider airplane.. The 321 on the other hand was. Not that it really matters for FH2, though. As, like you said, these planes are simply too large for FH2.

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Originally Posted by Scharfschütze-Snoop
Arado Ar 17

I have never heard of this plane and so far it doesnt seem to exist either. Maybe you meant something else? :uhm:

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Ft 17
Could be interesting for Anti Partisan maps or for something similar to that.

Uberhauptstormfuhrer September 23rd, 2007 01:26 AM

mmm was the town Yper (or Ieper) not occupide by the Belgians during WW1. If i recall history lessons correctly, the Belgians had to retreat behind the river Ijzer (don't know englisch version of the name) and they hold that peace of land for the rest of the war, thanks to flooding the whole region.

ps i am from Belgium to.

as for the suggestions in this thread, i would just wait with vehicle suggestions after the first release.

Scharfschütze-Snoop September 23rd, 2007 06:54 AM

Ypres or Ypern wass a city in the Great war. UK troops (England and canada and scotland) fight up here. Belgian Army Fight in 1914 in Luige (Luik) and move to Antwerp to the canal. Belgian army fight in 1915 ( i think) in Diksmude by the river yzer. Ypres todat very good, no sun but no rain and tourism today was fine. maybe 2000 today.

wjlasloThe2nd thankx for reaction but pls, shut up! :)

torenico September 23rd, 2007 11:24 AM

Messerschmitt 323

is on FHSW

i dont known if we can see it on FH2...

lol.. the king of the rammers

ZEPELIN 'RAMMER'

this german/super/ultra/secret/plane crash whit the tail of the bomber and it.. well.. estall

used on 1944 and 1945 rocket plane

torenico September 23rd, 2007 11:49 AM

oh i forgot..

heres a good german heavy bomber

help me whit this plane.. i dont known if this was used or not

Junkers ju 390 Junkers ju 488

and this italians, germans planes Cr 42 Falco,

RataMarsupial September 23rd, 2007 12:44 PM

Anyone mentioned FT17,btw?
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4...0720230zu9.jpg

torenico September 23rd, 2007 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RataMarsupial (Post 3940117)

wooot?

Big A September 23rd, 2007 01:11 PM

Well, Ithink that we will see almost all of those things in FHSW/FHSW2 so.

snotvod September 23rd, 2007 01:38 PM

Yeah, the mosquito would be very nice.
All the other stuff, probably not.
And i presume you're sniper-snoop from wo2forum.nl ?

Scharfschütze-Snoop September 23rd, 2007 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by torenico (Post 3939994)
Messerschmitt 323

is on FHSW

i dont known if we can see it on FH2...

lol.. the king of the rammers

ZEPELIN 'RAMMER'

this german/super/ultra/secret/plane crash whit the tail of the bomber and it.. well.. estall

used on 1944 and 1945 rocket plane

I have FHSW, where can i found the setups for the new update (me 323 giant):confused:

Scharfschütze-Snoop September 23rd, 2007 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by snotvod (Post 3940218)
Yeah, the mosquito would be very nice.
All the other stuff, probably not.
And i presume you're sniper-snoop from wo2forum.nl ?

Yes, thats me. Maybe can you help me.

Kan jij me helpen bij Engels te posten want ik heb last van Engels.

Ik weet dat de geposte suggestie's zijn ontstaan maar niet echt is gebruikt maar ik vindt op zich dit zeer tof om deze te gebruiken voor de fun. Gamen is fun hebben en soms moet je de werkelijkheid overtreden. kan je dit evt posten in engels?;)

Als je dit doet, zeer hartelijk bedankt:cool:

Scharfschütze-Snoop September 23rd, 2007 03:19 PM

Another question.

When is FH2 ready? its for a Dutch forum and the persons ask that to me.
Sorry for my English. This year, i have English in high school. maybe is thuis an good idea.

FlyGuy45 September 23rd, 2007 03:24 PM

FH2 will be out soon, thats all I can tell you. :-D
Your English is fine, do not worry.

Scharfschütze-Snoop September 23rd, 2007 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyGuy45 (Post 3940365)
FH2 will be out soon, thats all I can tell you. :-D
Your English is fine, do not worry.

Thank you for the fast reaction and thank you for complications. :bows:

Stefan F September 23rd, 2007 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Scharfschütze-Snoop (Post 3940390)
Thank you for the fast reaction and thank you for complications. :bows:

*compliments :)

General Rommel September 23rd, 2007 04:32 PM

Who are you to say about the size of the FH2 map. FH2 maps are huge and I'm sure any plane can take off depending on the map. And where the runway is placed.

LIGHTNING [NL] September 23rd, 2007 04:42 PM

It depends more on the way planes are coded. He's only noting that if they were coded realisticly, then they would need a full map's lenght to take off. And he's probably right about that...

Scharfschütze-Snoop: We zijn druk bezig om FH2 af te ronden, maar er moet nog het een en ander aan gedaan worden. Ik kan je niet precies zeggen wanneer we klaar zullen zijn (dat weet ik zelf ook niet), maar je kan er wel rustig van uit gaan dat het meer dan een maand zal duren.

Anlushac11 September 23rd, 2007 05:14 PM

The request for a Arado 17 I believe is actually a Arado AR234B jet bomber.

The FT17 was used by a number of countries in 1939-1940. French used them in Somaliland in 1940. The first tank combat in North Africa by US tanks was M3 Stuarts versus Vichy French FT17's.

Last known combat was by Germans in Paris against resistance during Fall Of Paris in 1944. The Germans also used some FT17 turrets as gun emplacements along the Atlantic wall in Normandy.

French FT17's had either a 37mm gun or a 7.5mm MG. There was a 75mm fire support version but I dont think there were many made.

Poland operated upgraded versions which had a better track design and came in a 37mm gun turret version and a 7.5mm MG gun turret version. There was a new turret which mounted a 37mm cannon and a coax 7.62mm MG but very few were made before start of the war.

The new tracks
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/p...FT17-Hanus.jpg

The Italians produced a Fiat 3000 which was based on the FT17. It had a more powerful engine and a improved suspension.
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/I...-Fiat3000B.jpg

wjlaslo September 23rd, 2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Anlushac11 (Post 3940481)
The request for a Arado 17 I believe is actually a Arado AR234B jet bomber.

The FT17 was used by a number of countries in 1939-1940. French used them in Somaliland in 1940. The first tank combat in North Africa by US tanks was M3 Stuarts versus Vichy French FT17's.

Last known combat was by Germans in Paris against resistance during Fall Of Paris in 1944. The Germans also used some FT17 turrets as gun emplacements along the Atlantic wall in Normandy.

French FT17's had either a 37mm gun or a 7.5mm MG. There was a 75mm fire support version but I dont think there were many made.

There was also one version that had a snow shovel fitted to the front so it could clear Luftwaffe runways of snow. We should have a "Clear the snow so your planes can scramble before the B17s arrive" map.

On the AR17, are you sure you don't mean the DO17? That would be useful in a Battle of Britain map.

Oh and sorry about being so harsh. I'm just getting really annoyed at seeing forum space wasted with "When is FH2 coming out" threads and people not reading stickies. It reminds me of the old mach1mussle days where he would post a thread suggesting a vehicle already in FH every other day...*eyes glaze over as wjlaslo thinks back to the older, less controlled days of noob flaming*

You have passed through the harsh anti-noob trials of Wjlaslo without a scratch! Welcome to the forums. Feel free to bash any noob you want. :D

The Last Unknown Soldier September 23rd, 2007 05:53 PM

On the Ar17, it will be in FHSW or some sort of Alpenfestung map (check FH site), and on the note of new forum members, welcome from the permenant super noob, feel free to neg rep me or something if you are depressed just angry :)

Anlushac11 September 23rd, 2007 06:04 PM

Not that Im opposed to seeing a Dornier DO-17Z but there are other aircraft that are needing attention in FH. The German bomber force is well represented by the He-111 and Ju-88, the two most common types.

Arado never built a aircraft numbered 17 in the WW2 era. The only thing I could find was a picture of a Arado AR234B "Blitz" bomber that was labelled as "AR17". It was picture number 17 of a series of pics of a Arado AR234B

This is a Arado AR234B-2. It used to be on FH's Alpenfestung map.
http://www.granddadshobbyshop.com/Ar234b2.jpg

torenico September 23rd, 2007 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Anlushac11 (Post 3940481)

The FT17 was used by a number of countries in 1939-1940. French used them in Somaliland in 1940. The first tank combat in North Africa by US tanks was M3 Stuarts versus Vichy French FT17's.

Last known combat was by Germans in Paris against resistance during Fall Of Paris in 1944. The Germans also used some FT17 turrets as gun emplacements along the Atlantic wall in Normandy.

wooot??

those FT17 attacked the stuart.. did they destroyed one??

and.. germans using those guns??

Johannes September 23rd, 2007 07:51 PM

No, they didn't as far as I know. From what I had read, the FT-17s didn't really scratch the Stuarts.

Yes, Germans used captured FT-17s. Remember that the mainland French Army after the armistice wasn't allowed to have tanks or AT weapons, so the Germans pretty much appropriated most of those and usually used them for secondary defense/reserve purposes.

torenico September 23rd, 2007 09:09 PM

so the stuarts have 0 problem to destroy a FT17..

sry but.. the french (vichy) do a baaaaaaaad job using WW1 vehicles vs WW2 era vehicles.. and the stuart have more armor than FT17.

here i see the partisan mode.. it is possible.. like the PR have insurgency mode

we can use partisans mode.. but i dont know

Johannes September 23rd, 2007 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by torenico (Post 3940914)
so the stuarts have 0 problem to destroy a FT17..

sry but.. the french (vichy) do a baaaaaaaad job using WW1 vehicles vs WW2 era vehicles.. and the stuart have more armor than FT17.

here i see the partisan mode.. it is possible.. like the PR have insurgency mode

we can use partisans mode.. but i dont know

The Vichy French didn't have much of a choice. The Germans and Italians administering over the armistice commissions didn't give the French much room for improvement. The colonies were basically left to what they already had before the fall of France, although the Vichyites were sometimes able to make shipments of armor (often hidden to prevent the Axis from noticing, though usually with German/Italian approval). Senegal even received 23 Somua S-35 tanks, though those did not arrive to North Africa until the French were already re-Allied and fighting against the Germans and Italians in Tunisia.

Thus, in Africa, the French were left with primarily Renault R35, FT-17, Char D1, a few Hotchkiss H35/H39, and the few Somua S-35 tanks mentioned above. Overall, the tanks used by the Vichy North African Army were worn down and badly equipped, and few could stand up to the 1942/1943 era of tanks in use by the other countries.

The situation was worse in Indochina, where the only tanks were a handful of FT-17, most of them run-down and ineffective. Made things very hard when the Vichy French found themselves against the Japanese, Thai, and then the Japanese again.

Seth_Soldier September 24th, 2007 01:15 AM

the ft17 could hope to flank the stuart to destroy them at blank point i guess.
A more useless charge is certainly during the sicilia landing where a tank commandant (i don't remember the name but it should be easy to find) has charged shermans with his R35.
After his tank was disabled, he go out, take his gun and continue the fight. (but was killed some seconds after that).
For the prestige...

ft17 was also used in normandy (with the 21. i think)

Scharfschütze-Snoop September 24th, 2007 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LIGHTNING [NL] (Post 3940417)

Scharfschütze-Snoop: We zijn druk bezig om FH2 af te ronden, maar er moet nog het een en ander aan gedaan worden. Ik kan je niet precies zeggen wanneer we klaar zullen zijn (dat weet ik zelf ook niet), maar je kan er wel rustig van uit gaan dat het meer dan een maand zal duren.

Geen probleem, m'n zegt altijd. Hoe langer er m'n aan werkt, hoe beter en geslaagder hij is. :cool:
Ik blijf hier checken en heb ondertussen in onze forum begonnen met topic met update's zoals filmpjes. Ik laat ze lekker kwijlen :naughty:

Scharfschütze-Snoop September 24th, 2007 02:13 AM

Just only i'm know (In english) is that the Ft-17 in the end of Great War 1 (1914-1918) used by the Frensh army and the frensh army used in the begin Great War 2.

Scharfschütze-Snoop September 26th, 2007 05:28 AM

Maybe an stupid question. The axis mode is Germany, Japan, Finland and in begin Russia. Are there maps Russia vs Poland? In the begin ww2 (blitzkrieg) attack Russia Poland in East side and germany West side. Another Question. 1937-1938 have Japan war with China. This war is the begin of ww2 in pacific. Are there China troops?:confused:

You don't understandt me, pls say it to me. :cool:

Big A September 26th, 2007 05:54 AM

Well there might be Soviets vs Poles. Remember that the devs have said that they have even thinked about the nex theatre. Again might be.:clueless:

Green_Vietnam September 26th, 2007 07:51 AM

Altho the XF-85 and B-29 will never make it into FH2, they do make a nice couple
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4397/b29x85qy2.jpg
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9568/b29x851yz6.jpg

Big A September 26th, 2007 08:23 AM

But you never know about the FHSW devs...:naughty: and Sgt-D, remember the FHSW devs... :eek:

[79th]Sgt-D September 26th, 2007 08:23 AM

tss tss... guys...

how about a Blohm und Voss bv 222 Wiking?

Do we really need that kind of stuff?

http://www.simviation.com/pageimages/bv222-10.jpg

Anlushac11 September 26th, 2007 08:33 AM

The story is the Vichy advanced with several FT17's supported by infantry, were detected, the US laid a Ambush and three FT17's were knocked out and the Vichy withdrew.

Also FT17 was obsolete by WW2 but a armored tank is still formidablet o a infantryman or partisan armed with a WW1 bolt action rifle.

Germans used FT17's in ETO for anti-partisan duties and as I stated before last known usage was by Germans during Paris uprising in 1944.

Scharfschütze-Snoop September 26th, 2007 10:26 AM

B29 or B36 wass here perfect for transport the McDonneld XF-85 "Goblin". Goblin wass smal and have no wheels. More here XF-85 Goblin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[WOLF] Ionizer September 26th, 2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Anlushac11 (Post 3940602)
This is a Arado AR234B-2. It used to be on FH's Alpenfestung map.
http://www.granddadshobbyshop.com/Ar234b2.jpg

It's still there. It's even a remote bomber kit on Sector-318 (as replacement for the glider kit if the Germans get the south farm first). In both cases it carries 2(!) 1000kg bombs. The player-fly-able version in Apple-fester's Dung also has rearward firing 30mm cannons.

antabax September 26th, 2007 11:09 PM

thats some really nice old pics. where u guys get em ?

[79th]Sgt-D September 27th, 2007 01:40 AM

baaahh...

Google

LegiOn[PL] September 27th, 2007 11:44 AM

It's highly doubtful that we will ever see Blohm und Voss seaplanes(who the hell needs 2/3/4/6 engine scouter plane's-I personally would love to see them in FH2,but let's get real-Dev's got more important thing's to model,than Huge recon/transport flyer's :)).
P.S.
I :love: Seaplane's......God-Consolidated PBY Catalina,pure Sex machine.:D

Commie September 27th, 2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Scharfschütze-Snoop (Post 3939860)
wjlasloThe2nd thankx for reaction but pls, shut up! :)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l1...ade/served.jpg

torenico September 27th, 2007 05:52 PM

heheheheeh

The Last Unknown Soldier September 27th, 2007 06:28 PM

Damn, that gato is ghetto :rofl:


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