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Old May 17th, 2007   #1
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As most people know that a Tiger Tank could "walk" under water for a while, i hope it would be in for FH2



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As most people know that a Tiger Tank could "walk" under water for a while, i hope it would be in for FH2
Interesting suggestion, General Henry.

I have several links that deal with the subject of the submersible Tiger tank. It was equipped with a schnorkel and could dive up to four meters. Even more interesting is that the Germans converted Panzer 3's and Panzer 4's for diving up to fifteen meters depth.

Here are a few link with not only pictures of diving Tiger tanks but also with pictures of diving Panzer 3' and Panzer 4's.

Axis History Forum :: Tiger Tanks & the Battle Doctrine of 'River Crossing'

Axis History Forum :: Sumersible Panzers?

Axis History Forum :: Tauchpanzer III and Flammenpanzer III

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Tauchpanzer IV

These vehicles could be used aswell for a crossing of the Bug river map. But AFAIK they werent used in North Afric, though.

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That is truly incredible.

Reminds me of a map in Galactic Conquest where players could exploit a bug to walk an AT-ST around on the bottom of a lake. Big fun. Would be nice if this was implemented in a map in Forgotten Hope 2, although the tanks would need a Limited Oxygen system like submarines to keep players from just driving them into the water and hiding them there.



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That is truly incredible.

Reminds me of a map in Galactic Conquest where players could exploit a bug to walk an AT-ST around on the bottom of a lake. Big fun. Would be nice if this was implemented in a map in Forgotten Hope 2, although the tanks would need a Limited Oxygen system like submarines to keep players from just driving them into the water and hiding them there.
Like i said before the Tiger tank could dive up to four meters with the Schnorkel. And the Panzer 3 and 4 up to fifteen meters. And i dont really see a problem a tank hiding in the water. Its not as if he somehow can attack while in the water.

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Who doesn't know about these submergable tanks? Would be nice if the appreriate map would be created for them.

I remember going "WTF?! Cool" years ago when I first saw the famous pictures which also happen to be posted here: Axis History Forum :: Tiger Tanks & the Battle Doctrine of 'River Crossing'
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but give them a oxygen meter?...? lol

the tanks won't have much targets when dive underwater



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but give them a oxygen meter?...? lol

the tanks won't have much targets when dive underwater
I second that.

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I remember going "WTF?! Cool" years ago when I first saw the famous pictures which also happen to be posted here: Axis History Forum :: Tiger Tanks & the Battle Doctrine of 'River Crossing'
Interesting isnt it? I even posted several links wich also have interesting information regarding submersible tanks in my previoust post in this thread. Check 'em out i'd say.

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To Pietje or anyone else who knows their stuff. What type of protection did the front driver's slit or if you want to add, the commander's cuppola have? Since it was probably bullet proof glass and sealed was the tank pretty much impervious to light arms fire at any range(which is what I expect)? I just need clarification since all I've seen is pictures of the inside and some sort of glass shield and to further complicate things, SPR...
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It would be nice if we had a map in which we could appreciate these tanks.(just a few errors...)
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To Pietje or anyone else who knows their stuff. What type of protection did the front driver's slit or if you want to add, the commander's cuppola have? Since it was probably bullet proof glass and sealed was the tank pretty much impervious to light arms fire at any range(which is what I expect)? I just need clarification since all I've seen is pictures of the inside and some sort of glass shield and to further complicate things, SPR...
Well, tanks where equipped with bulletproof, although a better word would be bullet resistant, glass wich provided excellent protection against small arms fire. The cupola was also equipped with bullet resistant glass. I have no idea how thick the glass generally was though. Generally speaking trying to take a tank out with small arms is rather pointless.

Ofcourse, there are exceptions such as the T-38 or the T-40 amphibious tank but these tanks had less then then 12mm armor (12mm is the minimum armor a vehicle needs to make small arms fire pointless) wich meant that they where vulnerable to small arms, with the exception of SMG's and pistols.

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Crossing of the Bug river would make for a nice map, i'd think. Can't think of any other map where we could use these vehicles, though.

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