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mydjinny February 11th, 2007 01:07 AM

Soft Sand Iwo
 
Can there be soft sand areas. What could be done in such maps as Iwo Jima and indeed, in some desert areas could be this: The ground becomes very rough at some points and there is a thin layer of invisible soil on top (Actually ground you can see but would pass through). This layer would be very thin so that people passing through it don’t look knee deep in invisible ground (Also to prevent people using it as complete concealment). Its point is to give the false impression about a smooth terrain whiles the lower rough makes it very hard for vehicles to maneuver through such areas. What would be seen would be vehicles passing through about 2 or 3 inches of soil. Although people would also pass through it, the lower rough would barely slow their movement (It might), and would be too thin to look weird, and anyone lying flat in it would be almost fully visible. The only thing that can be completely concealed in soft earth is a grenade and that wouldn’t be that much of a bother, I hope… since such areas don’t exist everywhere…The point is to create areas where vehicles may be forced to linger behind leaving infantry without support (As was the case in such places as Iwo) but this might also be handy in desert areas of same effect.

Coca-Cola February 11th, 2007 04:25 PM

Re: Soft Sand Iwo
 
would also make a good attempt at snow...

Fuzzy Bunny February 11th, 2007 04:45 PM

Re: Soft Sand Iwo
 
Cool idea, it'd be interesting to see if it'd be possible to allow for at least partial concealment (as it's easier than destructible terrain, and sand/snow are not that hard to dig into.)

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No.8 wire man February 11th, 2007 07:06 PM

Re: Soft Sand Iwo
 
I made a post on this same topic a few months ago in the suggestion section.

Moose12 February 11th, 2007 09:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FuzzyBunny (Post 3530741)
Rep +1 for you.

Oh god, what I wouldn't do for rep from Fuzzy. It's like being touched by an angel.

Lupin February 11th, 2007 10:46 PM

Re: Soft Sand Iwo
 
Theoretically possible if you make an object that's nothing but a texture and has no collision mesh.

JohnWalker February 11th, 2007 11:59 PM

Re: Soft Sand Iwo
 
Hint Moose, post porn.


But on a serious note, that's a great idea.

mydjinny February 12th, 2007 02:22 AM

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I was watching flag of our fathers (Yer, yer, just a Hollywood movie), but it made me remember that fact of Iwo, the tanks had issues moving up... The nI go and play FH Iwo and apart from the sheer size and the fact that the Ship can barely hit the island accurately (Goddamn bots), we had com[plte tank battles that were just sickening to see since I never really imagine iwo that way....

FatJoe February 12th, 2007 03:04 AM

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hmm..

I remember when I had to catch up on the rest of my platoon during the movie. We were having a haircut when we were called out to the beach for filming. The guys that were done with the haircut headed for the beach, but I was stuck in the chair, until the hairdresser stopped and told me to run after them. Throwing my gear on, Garand in one hand (fake :\) and my helmet in the other, I started running after my platoon.. And Boy, that was anything but easy.

When you thrust your foot down and backwards, 50% of the power and speed went into the sand. I ran for 200 meters (amazing achivement at the time.. :p ) but felt like 500 meters (or in my perspective at the time 52 miles :p ).. Running in that thing is a bitch. Maybe one could disable sprinting in the wet/soft sand, or slow infantry down somehow?

Otherwise, a cool idea.. nice :)

RedSand February 12th, 2007 03:23 AM

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so much coding *head explodes!*

mydjinny February 12th, 2007 05:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FatJoe (Post 3531355)
hmm..

I remember when I had to catch up on the rest of my platoon during the movie. We were having a haircut when we were called out to the beach for filming. The guys that were done with the haircut headed for the beach, but I was stuck in the chair, until the hairdresser stopped and told me to run after them. Throwing my gear on, Garand in one hand (fake :\) and my helmet in the other, I started running after my platoon.. And Boy, that was anything but easy.

When you thrust your foot down and backwards, 50% of the power and speed went into the sand. I ran for 200 meters (amazing achivement at the time.. :p ) but felt like 500 meters (or in my perspective at the time 52 miles :p ).. Running in that thing is a bitch. Maybe one could disable sprinting in the wet/soft sand, or slow infantry down somehow?

Otherwise, a cool idea.. nice :)

No seriously...you were an extra in that movie? Amazing. It was actually on the real Iwo? That's some heavy duty history right there

I think a good amount of trick mapping could help this, very rough and bumpy terrain everywhere with a nice thin layer of soft sand on top of it all...So that although you can run and all, you would by moving around a whole bunch of stuff....Come to think of it, no need for the softsand everywhere....Some places, definitely, but otherwise, just a nasty ground with many tiny roughs would make everyone comfortable...Issue is, this would be murder with the grenades...I think tha fact already spoils things for all round soft soil

Moose12 February 12th, 2007 05:44 AM

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I completely believe fatjoe, they shot the movie in iceland as well as on the real Iwo Jima, and since there are meant people in iceland, I bet he was in the movie.

And Johnwalker :), Porn is reserved for those special threads.

FatJoe February 12th, 2007 06:27 AM

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yes, I was in the movie in the invasion scene, shot in Iceland. You do what ever you can to get involved if they are shooting a major WWII movie near your home, and in search of extras. :)

There were about 14 platoons of people, each platoon consisiting of around 40 people, and in total about 500 Icelandic extras plus, ofcourse, the main cast. Impressive sight to see +300 soldiers run from the boats, up the beach. Even more impressive to be one of them :D

Anyway.. yeah.. I like the idea, would be interesting to see how/if it works..

mydjinny February 12th, 2007 06:44 AM

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In retrospect, I should have called this thread 'Sands of Iwo Jima' :)

Admiral Donutz February 12th, 2007 06:49 AM

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:moved: from GD to Suggestions.

Oh and that's cool FatJoe! :p

JohnWalker February 12th, 2007 07:20 PM

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If I recall, the Japanese government didn't allow battle scenes to be filmed on Iwo. I'm not sure what counts as battle or not though.

And Moose, there is a very special thread sitting at home in Off Topic feeling really rejected and confused right now. Do what's right.

mydjinny February 12th, 2007 11:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Donutz (Post 3531489)
:moved: from GD to Suggestions.

Oh and that's cool FatJoe! :p


Thanks, Mac.... I slapped my head when I realised where I'd accidentally placed this thread...

Fuzzy Bunny February 17th, 2007 03:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose12 (Post 3531045)
Oh god, what I wouldn't do for rep from Fuzzy. It's like being touched by an angel.

I just gave you some, you nong. :-)

*touch*


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