Weapons Q
 

I was wondering. I m sure the Dev's are completely aware of the fact that individuals are lusting after specific weapons to be in FH. I just had an idea, im probably not the first but hey here it goes.
I know this would take extra time but whatever. You could make a various number of weapons that people have been requesting. And you could make them unlock weapons like in BF2 and you could have them be for only 1 or many classes. Like i know that the Mauser pistol is one of the few wanted. I heard a rumor that there wont be ranks. Well, could there still be weapon unlocks?? you could unlock 1 of many weapons ever x number of kills. This would a great diversity to game play.:beer:

personally i think some cool guns to add would be the S43 Erma EMP, the Bergmann, The MG15nA, The Mauser pistol of course, The Suomi M1931, MP41, Gast Maschingewehr, PzB 39

just a Q can you please make the anti tank rifles fire at the real speed, not like your in the matrix

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huh? What is that, never heard of those two weapons before

and for the PzB 39, it was in FH, so im also sure its gona be in one of the later releases of FH2

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The PzB 39 was NOT in FH1, however a model of it for FH2 has been shown.

The only weapon unlock I support is the Mauser C96 - pretty much every side had the opportunity to get hold of one as a booty weapon. However, I don't have anything against selectable kits, eg MG34/MG42 for the German support class. Or even Kar98 with sight ring/Kar98 without sight ring for the Regular.

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Hmm don't you mean you have an idea, a suggestion? ;)

:moved: from GD to Suggestions.

Personally I don't like unlocks, it only promotes point whoring. Besides that it would be rather silly if you could "unlock" let's say a Sturmgewehr 44... I can already picture 1337 CoD point farming kiddies with them running around in an early war map... great. So I say no due to

- It promotes point whoring (bad!)
- It will cause historical errors (late war guns in early war setting)

People will just have to wait for a map that plays in a period and setting were a certain weapon was used. If it's a special (rare) weapon it should be a pickup kit (or randomized on spawn but hearing that BF2 doesn't support randomization -way to go dice :rolleyes: - ) so only a few people may run around with it.

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I would like to see the unlocks being changed into a alternative weapon system, meaning that players have the choice to pick a different weapon for there kit ( if available ) when they spawn.

For example, the Russians would be able choice between a PPSH with a Drum or a PPSH with a stock clip.

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I heard that in the latest patch you are now able to create alterantive kits using the unlock function, u click that unlock switcher and a new kit is displayed, this could be done in many casses, i think PRMM is doing something with it. Its a kind of thing that u dont have to win, its just an alternative. Like this, if PRMM can do it something like this, the assult class now is fited with a M16 with grenade launcher, an alternative could be an M16 with just normal grenades, smoke and what not if u dont want the grenade laucher. im not sure if it is possible but it would be great for FH2 because some soldier like the british paras could choose some weapons they wanted like between a tompson or a Sten, that sort of thing.

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Karabiner 98k muzzle velocity: ca. 745m/s
PzB 35(p) muzzle velocity: ca. 1275m/s
Boys muzzle velocity: ca. 850m/s

Draw your own confusions.

And unlocks, any unlocks, any point system, any tangible rewards that in any way reward scoring (because as has been discussed and demonstrated over and over agan there is _NO_ known way to implement a points system that avoids whoring), how shall I put it gently....licks the sweat from a dead man's balls?

All for having rare, exotic weapons pickup kits, though.

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IF the unlocks make it into FH2 will the points peeps have from BF2 slide over to FH2? If thats the case I need to start playing that damn game before FH2 release day.:(

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*whimpers* please god, no...

(As that'd mean some of the idiots from BF2 will slide over too..)

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Well, EA let unranked games to unlock weapons. Because of this, I would imagine that the FH2 team will use the unlock system as alternative kits.

Also, I wouldn't worry about late-war weapons in early war battles. The unlocks are outlined in the kits itself.

You can have German Fall 1941 with one unlock, and German Summer 1944 with a different one.

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No, I dont think so. In POE2 everyone is a private, no points from previous games are shown (i.e. If you are a captain in BF2, you're still a private in POE2)

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The scoring system (frags, flag caps and even death) don't mean a thing in FH. Teamplay is what makes this mod great, so why implement a scoring system which rewards for amount of kills...

Just a side note, it's still quite impossible to rate teamplay in a scoring system. Like covering each others advance, covering your mates when they go for a flag or move into a base. How does one keep track of these type of things ^^

That and what the others said about late ww2 weapons being available in early ww2

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well the weapons i was suggesting would be REALLY old. most of them were from WWI and Pre war. Something that somebody might have kept or brought along as a souvenir. Just exotic, and for the most part out dated weapons.

and what i ment about the Pzb anti tank rifles is that THE RATE OF FIRE IS AS FAST AS YOU CAN OPEN THE BOLT AND PUT A NEW ROUND IN!!!!
there shouldnt be an unrealistic delay.

My guess this was done to keep people from using them as sniper rifles. but still. Comon!

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Have you researched this or are you just guessing?

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Well i have a book of fire arms, it doesnt tell you the ROF but in the specs of the PzBs it says that

"The PzB39 (for example) carried a 'quick loader' alongside the breech to hold 5 rounds ready for rapid re loading. "
Military Small Arms of the 20th century. 7th edition. Page # 392
(although i would hardly call the PzB39 a small arm)

the PzB39 is basically an upgraded version of the 38. They were both single shot rifles. Both firing a 13mm jacketed bullet with an armor piercing steel core. Then replaced with a Tungsten Carbide core.

:0wned: jk jk

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yes i spend too much time reading about guns and tanks.

Do you have a problem with the A.K Redneck Doya?

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so ya i did research it

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Two, ten round holders, not five.

7.92 x 94 mm, not 13 mm.

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Did you try the Pzb39 ingame?

No, then how can you say the reload delay is ''unrealistic''?

By the way, the german ATR in FH 0.7 is the Polish M35, NOT the Pzb 39, so don't come here saying you used a Pzb in Fall Weiss ;)

I also don't want to be ''armchair moderating'', but I find your habits of double, triple and quadruple posting annoying, please use the edit button for the sake of my mouse's scroll wheel!

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it will be great, the bergman, the erma was used a lot at the bigining of the war by german troop (because they were a few mp40). During the war, this weapons was give to police, or ostroopen. (we can used them on armoured train map, because it was used against partisan)
The C96 was used at the begining, before the war, in 1936. But a lot of officier like it...
For SS troops, they used a lot of this weapons >> the czech MG: ZB37 or MG37(t) and the ZB26 or MG26(t)
http://www.dasheer.org.uk/zb26.jpg
http://www.dasheer.org.uk/zb37.jpg
http://www.dasheer.org.uk/machine_guns.htm

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http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/n...er_erma_bt.gifthe erma mp

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sorry, your right about the ammunition size, it was the mauser 1918 with the 13mm ammo. :bows:

but the quickloader that was placed on the PzB 39 was only 5 shots

the gun itself, Mauser 1918, PzB38, PzB39 were all one shot rifles.:deal:

besides a few modifications the 38 is the same as the 39, just with a quickloader added. So the reload time should only be minimaly slower. :deal:

BECAUSE. . . .the 39 placed the rounds closer to hand, the 38, you would probably have ur ammo in ur pocket or somewhere nearby. :deal:

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are you sure about the M35 being the only one used, because when u kill, it says PzB blah blah blah not M35 which it says for the Polish.

or were they lazy and only made one ATR besides the british gun

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No, it was two lots of 10 rounds each, on either side.

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The Karabin przeciwpancerny wz.35 is in the game for the Polish team, and is also used by the Germans under its captured designation of Panzerbüchse 35(p).