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Finland guns Then when you are making the eastern front, I hope that you could put an effer on finnish guns. In original FH, Finland have mosin nagant-rifle. That must be replaced with m/27 "pystykorva"(used in winter war) or m/39 "Ukko-Pekka"(used in continunation war and war of Lapland). Luger and Walther be must replaced with L-35 "Lahti" pistole Maschinengewehr 34 (MG34) Should be replaced with maxim. M/26 "Lahti-Saloranta" would be nice too :) m/31 "Suomi" is the only "real" finnish weapon. I'm sorry about my really bad english. |
Re: Finland guns Fine for me, but to give them a puch against the German armor the kiv/39 "Norsupyssy would be nice too, more an artillery piece then a gun, but can you say no to this? http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/pstkiv_L39c.jpg I know i can't! |
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Due to my understanding though, the Finns did not use the MG34 as often as they used the DP. I rather see them use the DP over the MG34 or MG42 anyway; this is more historically accurate. However, I would like to see a variety of pistols, specifically the P-08 Luger and or P-38 Walther as sidearms, for the Finnish. The m/31 Soumi is a must however. Maybe a couple of MP40s from time to time for crews in German tanks, but that's it. |
Re: Finland guns Yes, Finland did use mosin nagant rifles, BUT m/27 was more common weapon. Finland used DP very much, because it has bigger clips than m/26 (20 rounds). |
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Rifles of Winter War: M91 http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/kiv91.jpg About 41% of the rifles used were M91s M91-24 http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/kiv_M9124.jpg 10% of rifles used M27 http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/kiv27.jpg 22% of rifles used M27 (used by cavalry) http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/kiv27rv.jpg Less than 1% of rifles used M28 http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/kiv_M28.jpg 13% of rifles used M28-30 http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/kiv_M2830_oma.jpg A bit over 13% of rifles used Finns also captured tens of thousands M/91-30, and thousands of Semi-automatick rifles, SIMONOV AND TOKAREV, these guns were taken in use instantly after capturing to replace crappy M/91 And these antique rifles still in use for some very unlucky units... M/1895 Winchester: http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/kiv_M95.jpg M/1870 Berdan http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/Berdan_kiv.jpg Navy Rifle M/02 Japanese http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/kiv_M02.jpg Note the dates these guns were from 1895, 1870, 1902... In Continuation war Finns got some more M/28-30 And nearly 100 000 M39 rifles http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/M39_oma.jpg "the Finns did not use the MG34 as often as they used the DP." Yes thats true, In Continuation war DP was the most common LMG of finnish army, MG34 was extreamly rare and it would be right to say that Finns didnt use it at all. " would like to see a variety of pistols, specifically the P-08 Luger and or P-38 Walther as sidearms, for the Finnish." In winter war Luger was the most common pistol I think, so Luger is a must, in Continuation war Lahti is a must, with Luger :) Finns used also Nagant revolvers, Tokarev pistols, Ruby pistol, FN high power (pilots used it), Mauser pistol, M/23 CZ , M/35 Beretta, M/19 Beretta, M/1910-22 FN and M/07 Husqvarna :D It would be cool to have all those pistols :lol: |
Re: Finland guns Yay, you'd have a 3% chance of spawning with a Belgian pistol! I like those odds! |
Re: Finland guns http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...iSaloranta.jpg Does anybody have any information with Lahti-Saloranta M/26 Light machine guns in China? China ordered 30 000 of these weapons, but only 1200 were sent to China in 1937. Maybe it can be included to the Chinese too.. :D |
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Re: Finland guns At least we're sure we're gonna get the Soumi now :p And by the looks of those other FAW weapons; the Maxim, mp18 and m/26 might be added too |
Re: Finland guns We have to have some gun from Husqvarna! That's the place in Sweden that I'm from... Well that's a good reason to have it ingame isn't it? ;) |
Re: Finland guns Guns? Screw that, I'd love to see Finnish infantry going into battle wielding Husqvarna chainsaws, lawn mowers and leaf blowers. |
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Make a serverside for it and call it FH meets DOOM & Home and Garden TV. LOL, a chainsaw would be a lot cooler than that stupid fillet knife the Fins use.... |
Re: Finland guns Ooo I like to use some Finnish m26. But DP is cool too. Do you think that finland will have little pit bigger role this time? Like 2 or 3 maps? |
Re: Finland guns :lol: Where do you get everything from, FuzzyBunny? :) |
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http://www.mosinnagant.net/images/Finn-Maxim-One.jpg Suomi smg was the main smg of Finland through both wars, but in Winter war 1/5 of the smgs were bergmann smgs :) This could be added (with 50 round box magazine) http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/kp_Bergmann.jpg In winter war it was used in the front line, but in continuation war it was used by civil guard ... Boys anti-tank rifle was the main anti-tank rifle of winter war, and lahti rifle was the main antitank rifle of continuation war :P These would be the weapons and vechiles of Finland and USSR would be cool to have in this FH2 :rolleyes: Winter war: Finland: Rifle: M/91 M/27 M/28-30 SMG: Suomi Bergmann LMG: Lahti DP Pistols: Luger MG: Maxim M/32-33 Anti-tank weaponery: Boys anti-tank rifle Kasapanos antitank grenade Molotovs cocktail Boforst antitank gun Tanks: No tanks Aeroplanes: Fokker D XXI .............................................. USSR: Rifles: M/91-30 Tokarev Simonov SMG: No smgs LMG: DP Pistols: Nagant revolver Tokarev pistol MG: Maxim Tanks: T-26 Flamethrower T-26 BT-7 T-28 Aeroplanes: Rata I-16 fighter Continuation war: Rifle: M/91 M/27 M/28-30 M/39 SMG: Suomi Bergmann LMG: Lahti DP Pistols: Luger Lahti-pistol MG: Maxim M/32-33 Anti-tank weaponery: Kasapanos antitank grenade Boforst antitank gun Pak-40 Zis-3 Panzerfaust and scherck Tanks: T-26 T-34 STUG Aeroplanes: Brewster Messersmith fighter Ju 87B-2 "Stuka" USSR: Rifles: M/91-30 Tokarev Simonov Mosin agant carbine SMG: PPS-43 PPSH-41 PPD-34 LMG: DP Pistols: Nagant revolver Tokarev pistol MG: Maxim Tanks: T-26 BT-7 T-34 KV-1 Josif Stalin Aeroplanes: Rata I-16 fighter Hurricane Sturmovik Yak-9 This list would be perfect, but quite hard to fill :uhm: PS. SRY for suprisingly long list of weapons :P |
Re: Finland guns Some of them won't be that long because there would be some mixing of weapons from other countries. This is especially true when some of the captured arms from the Soviet Union exceeded the Finnish weapons in some of battles (ie. M1891/30 and its sniper counterparts or the M1895 Nagant). Didn't the Soviets used the crappy PPD-34, PPD-34/38 and PPD-40 in the Winter War? When the PPSh-41 came into play, they replaced all of the PPD almost immediately. |
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From M/91-30 to M/91 = New sights From M/91 to M/27 = New Front sights and a shorter stock & barrel From M/27 to M/28-30 = New sights From M28-30 to M/39 = Pistol-grip, thicker stock, new place for sling swivel, and new place for front sight. And the Simonov rifle I mentioned can be modified from tokarev rifle. And I beliave it wouldnt be to hard to modifie Luger a bit to make it look like Lahti pistol. :) "Didn't the Soviets used the crappy PPD-34, PPD-34/38 and PPD-40 in the Winter War?" Yes they had, but not in the front line, soviet leaders didnt believe in SMGs, so they rested in stores, after winter war they were taken in mas produktion, Suomi SMG had convinced them to believe that SMGs would be very usefull in new wars :) Instead of smgs Russians used semiautomatick rifles in large scales, whole units were armed with Tokarev and Simonov semiautomatick rifles :eek: |
Re: Finland guns We recieved a pretty nice looking m26 from finnwars. |
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Is there a list of guns FH reseaved??? Rifles, did we reseave them?, what about russian weapons? How many guns we got 5? 10? 15? 20? |
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Re: Finland guns Ukko-Pekka, FaW has all the most used rifles for both sides so don't worry about that + plenty of other stuff (tanks etc.) DP-27: http://dx.ampednews.com/images/news/...sov_render.jpg PPSH-41 http://dx.ampednews.com/images/news/1068/faw3.jpg Finnish Rifleman: http://dx.ampednews.com/images/news/...leman_pic1.jpg Just couple of examples what we have. |
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http://www.mosinnagant.net/images/Vi...scavsitone.jpg http://www.mosinnagant.net/images/Un...ersewneps..JPG http://www.pkymasehist.fi/turkis36.jpg http://www.kevos4.com/images/MAXIM-8.jpg Since Finns only used captured russian tanks and Stugs bought from germany Finns need only new skins for those tanks, same with Messercmith, Stuka, Fockewulf. Brewster and Fokker should be made though :uhm: Quote:
Did FaW give ALL of their skinns to FH??? Because if it did Finland is definately going to be in this mod in large scale :eek: Wouln´t that be like 9/10 of all weapons USSR and Finland need :O Thank you FaW for this wonderfull present :adore: |
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Re: Finland guns http://mods.moddb.com/2111/finland-a...image-gallery/ That's pretty impressive. We just need: AVS-36 Simonov AVS-36-PE Simonov (AVS-36 with a PE scope) AVT-40 Simonov DK Degtyarev (an older version of the DShK) DPM Degtyarev (a more modern DP that was adopted in 1943) DShK-38 Degtyarev M1891/30-PE Mosin Nagant (M1891/30 with a PE scope) M1891/30-PEM Mosin Nagant (M1891/30 with a PEM scope) M1891/30-PU Mosin Nagant (M1891/30 with a PU scope) M1895 Nagant M1910 Maxim M1944 Mosin Nagant (Apperently, the M1938 Mosin Nagant is already done according to FaW) PPD-34/38 (The PPD-34 is already done) PPD-40 PPS-42 (this was initally produced before it was improved) PPS-43 PTRD-41 PTRS-41 ROKS-2 ROKS-3 SG-43 Goryunov SVT-38 Tokarev SVT-38-PU Tokarev (SVT-38 with PU scope) SVT-40 Tokarev SVT-40-PU Tokarev (SVT-38 with PU scope) TT-30 (The TT-33 is already done) I think that's about all the missing Soviet small arms (not including explosives). Can anyone comfirm if the Red Army used the M1891 Mosin Nagant Cossack/Dragoon/Infantry rifles? I trust that the German weapons would be largely taken care of during the North African release? |
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Re: Finland guns You guys actually did the M1910 (or what some says... PM1910)? A lot of time people just model the MG01, MG08 or one of the Finnish variants. |
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Re: Finland guns So they gave you guys all that? |
Re: Finland guns skorz tight man |
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