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Mp5-Killa April 16th, 2006 08:23 AM

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Why just Omaha Beach? If you're applying your reasoning to just that one beach then why not the entire D-Day landing area ... why not Caen, St Lo, Falaise, Berlin, Volvograd (stalingrad), London (The Blitz), Coventry, Narvik, Tripoli, Manilla, Hawaii?

Pornska April 16th, 2006 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mp5-Killa
Why just Omaha Beach? If you're applying your reasoning to just that one beach then why not the entire D-Day landing area ... why not Caen, St Lo, Falaise, Berlin, Volvograd (stalingrad), London (The Blitz), Coventry, Narvik, Tripoli, Manilla, Hawaii?

Why not Poland?; always forgotten :bawl:

Mp5-Killa April 16th, 2006 08:28 AM

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/me sighs

Warsaw ...

Frenkan April 16th, 2006 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by G.Drew (bf2)(cod2)
were just talkin about keeping OMAHA BEACH preserved, not the WHOLE of fuking france!
just put a belt (not a leather belt) around certian areas or even the entire of omaha beach to keep it preserved, i mean, its better to show our children what history was like in the fleash and concrete rather than showing them in books and pictures!

You obviously missed the point. As Mp5-Killa points out, why should you just preserve Omaha beach? If you decide to preserve Omaha beach for all the lives lost there then there are thousands of places around the world which should also be preserved. Don't get me wrong, I also want Omaha beach preserved as it is but a line has to be drawn somewhere and I don't know who would be able to be the judge of where we draw that line.

pmbf1942 April 16th, 2006 02:10 PM

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Omaha was the bloodiest, and if you say, who cares about omaha beach, look at the amazon! well, the marshes in normandy are gone, and they are a natural animal habitat.

And people are destroying this world,

And what about Hawaii, berlin, stalingrad, or leningrad,

Hawaii: perserved
berlin, monuments
stalingrad, monuments
leningrad, monuments
warsaw, no clue
caen, peg bridge
london, exhibits at the subways (I think) or just exhibits of airraid shelters
utah B, not very epic
Juno b, not very epic or bloody
gold b, pice of cake
pointe du hoc, monument, they havent touched that place in yaers
sword, I dont know much about sword
omaha, theyre not doing enough to preserve its history.
point de la peirce, never touched it
port bessein, kept that historic wall.

Seth_Soldier April 16th, 2006 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pmbf1942
Juno b, not very epic or bloody

It is not because omaha beach is hyper-publicized by media that's the only one .The other allies has also suffer a lot too.
Hello the world ! the american were not alone ! and i can say that brits and the commonwealth were more than the american at the dday !

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Originally Posted by pmbf1942
caen, peg bridge

caen has one of the best museum/memorial ...
link

A law has been passed (no relation with history) to save littoral and avoid rapid erosion. About the beach the natural erosion is doing his work ...

Preservation are not needed, but memorials yes.

Andy02m April 16th, 2006 02:57 PM

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pointe du hoc is amazing to see, it looks like a moonscape......giant craters all over the place and some of the pillboxes are still there

pvt. Allen April 16th, 2006 03:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pmbf1942
Omaha was the bloodiest, and if you say, who cares about omaha beach, look at the amazon! well, the marshes in normandy are gone, and they are a natural animal habitat.

And people are destroying this world,

And what about Hawaii, berlin, stalingrad, or leningrad,

Hawaii: perserved
berlin, monuments
stalingrad, monuments
leningrad, monuments
warsaw, no clue
caen, peg bridge
london, exhibits at the subways (I think) or just exhibits of airraid shelters
utah B, not very epic
Juno b, not very epic or bloody
gold b, pice of cake
pointe du hoc, monument, they havent touched that place in yaers
sword, I dont know much about sword
omaha, theyre not doing enough to preserve its history.
point de la peirce, never touched it
port bessein, kept that historic wall.

As you posted it after people pointing out all the battles in the world how can you say that Omaha was the bloodiest?
Surely, many Americans lst their lifes there and were stock for hours, but there are alot more places wich were taken by more human blood.

As for Warsaw, we do have some monuments and museums, it also has official celebration day on it's beginning.

silian April 16th, 2006 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pvt. Allen
Ignorant moneymakers, nothing more what I can say.
Caen administration also wanted to move the Pegasus bridge in pices to some museum and built a new bridge with bigger road there, hopefully they didn't managedto do this.

Pegasus Bridge was replaced, but after hearing that the French wanted to dismantle it, however British veterans accociations bought the bridge for £1.

From Wikipedia:

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A museum and memorial can now be found next to the site of the battle, on Major Howard road. The most prominent item on display is the original bridge itself. In 1993 it was replaced by a slightly larger, more modern bridge which emulated design of the original. The old bridge (built in 1934) was too narrow and was not structurally suited to heavy modern traffic. The French originally planned to dismantle the old bridge, but British veterans' associations bought the bridge for a symbolic price of one Pound. The bridge lay out in the fields for six years while funds were being raised to give it a proper place on the museum grounds, where it is now located.

Mp5-Killa April 17th, 2006 12:41 AM

Re: omaha beach idea
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pmbf1942
Omaha was the bloodiest, and if you say, who cares about omaha beach, look at the amazon! well, the marshes in normandy are gone, and they are a natural animal habitat.

And people are destroying this world,

And what about Hawaii, berlin, stalingrad, or leningrad,

Hawaii: perserved
berlin, monuments
stalingrad, monuments
leningrad, monuments
warsaw, no clue
caen, peg bridge
london, exhibits at the subways (I think) or just exhibits of airraid shelters
utah B, not very epic
Juno b, not very epic or bloody
gold b, pice of cake
pointe du hoc, monument, they havent touched that place in yaers
sword, I dont know much about sword
omaha, theyre not doing enough to preserve its history.
point de la peirce, never touched it
port bessein, kept that historic wall.

Ok firstly, marshland is lost everywhere throughout the world every day, not just in Normandy. Also, the Amazon basin is a far more important natural habitat than an area of marshland ... but this is way off topic. Also claiming that a battle isn't very 'epic' is an insult to the soldiers who died there, please stop being so hypocritical about respecting the dead when you only seem to want to respect the americans who died on D-Day. Deaths on the D-Day beaches:

Juno - 574 dead
Gold - 400 casulaties
Utah - Less than 300 casualties
Omaha - 2,400 casualties
Sword - 630 casualties

British casulaties - 1,300
American - 2,700 casulaties
Canadian - 574 dead + 100s injured

The Americans may have the most casulaties but you can't ignore the hundreds who died from the other nations. Calling gold a 'piece of cake', utah 'not very epic' and juno 'not very epic or bloody' is ... pretty ignorant in my opinion.

And I like your reasoning about London - 'exhibits at the subways', I thought you were saying the area should be preserved? Since when are mouments preserving the area ? I'm totally for respecting the men and women who gave their lives for both sides but preserving land because that's the area they fell on is just ridiculous. I only set up Hawaii for you as a trick ... how can Pearl Harbour be preserved if the area attacked during WW2 was an airfield/naval base ;)

Basically, you cannot preserve land just because a war took place there. Some areas of land are symbolic and should be kept preserved (Auschwitz - Although preserving it hasn't stopped other genocide against certain races - Rwanda and Sudan for example) but preserving every battlefield is going too far.


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