IL-2 Sturmovik
 

The IL-2 was known for its maneuverability being sacrificed for heavy armoring, making it basically a flying tank. This often caused the pilots death when being attacked from above by fighters, but it was almost invulnerable against any guns up to 20mm fired from the ground too. The armor plating varied from 5-12mm, and added with the shaping and the speed of the plane, machineguns didn't form much of a threat to it.

I find that extremely badly represented in FH. A well aimed machinegun burst from 7.92 caliber gun can easily reduce it's armor to 2/3. 20mm FlaK kills it with just few hits.

That really fights the principles of the plane. What's the idea of heavy armor if it can be taken out by even handheld machineguns?

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Basically everything from the nose to just past the rear gunner was heavily armored. Weak spots were a starter cartridge thingy just past the armor to the gunners left IIRC and the radiator on the bottom.

The IL-2 was so well armored that it was the reason why the new AAA guns were going to use 30mm cannons.

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It's also the reason behind the Mobelwagen armed with the Flakvierling 38 not being adopted.

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So... No one else thinks it's a little weakly represnted in the game? :|

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I think you have a very good point MkH^ and I'm all for a change in the code.

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Weren`t the radiators mounted behind the engine,with the intake on top of the nose?

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You can see it underneath the fuselage between the wings in this photo. Actually its the oil cooler.
http://www.aviation-history.com/garb...shin_IL2-1.jpg

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Strange."The original Il-2 was a single-seater. The forward fuselage around the engine and cockpit was built with 700 kilograms (1,543 pounds) of steel ranging from 5 to 12 millimeters (a fifth to half inch) thick. The engine radiators were placed behind the engine in the armored body, while the air intakes were placed on top of the nose. K-4 armor glass was used in the cockpit, with thicknesses from 55 to 65 millimeters (2.2 to 2.6 inches). "
Copied from:http://www.vectorsite.net/avil2.html
Edit:Can it be the outlet?

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I know when I read "The Blonde Knight Of Germany" Hartman stated that they learned to shoot where the starter cartridge storage thingy was since when it was hit it would set the plane on fire. The other weakspot was the belly cooler. I thought Hartman called it a radiator but apparently its the oil cooling radiator. And its very possible the radiator heat could be ducted out of the oil cooler pod, but I think part of it was ducted into the cockpit so it could be used to warm it in the winter.

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If you happen to have the June 2001 issue of Aeroplane,there is a cutaway drawing on page 83.

It is indeed an intake for the oil radiator,while the 2 coolant radiators are located behind the engine venting the hot air aft of the oil cooler.

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.....um, what is the point of that post?

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looks like a complaint :P

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2 look like it, but the 2nd one, on the 109 vrs. P-40, shouldn't be...10 20mm rounds would knock down a p-40, easy. Hell, 7 would do the trick.

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Stay on target. FrederF it is a legitimate complaint you have and has been brought up before. Please feel free to start a thread in General Dsicussion about it.

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The Il-2 is not only underarmored, but under represented as well.

I would love to see this change in code as well. Plust I would love to see the Il-2 3M variant with dual 37mm anti-tank autocannons in place of the 23mm ShVAK cannon. Plus some early generation, single seat Sturmoviks would be a nice addition.

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Sorry about that. Just meaning to pontificate about how these little errors abound in the world of FH aviation. I also tend to kvetch for the heck of it when posting. Anyway, the IL-2 does seem rather vulnerable when it should be more resilliant against ammunition 20mm and below. Give the tailgunner a fighting chance to bring a 109 down ;)