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NoCoolOnesLeft December 21st, 2004 07:34 AM

Minimap/Vehicle Name Skin Suggestion
 
I remember a while back, when 0.61 was released McGibs made a new skin for the menu, server browser and all the ingame icons such as the health bar and position sign. But, the minimap never received the same cosmetic treatment:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...hA/Minimap.jpg

So, what I'm wondering is will it ever have the same green and brown rust look like many of the other icons on the heads up display?

It's not essential, but it looks nice none-the-less. it just makes everything look more polished off I guess.

Also, when you enter a vehicle now the name appears over it's health bar in red, this is a good idea but it's a bit of an eye sore:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ehicleName.jpg

I was wondering if the dev team could produce something similar to what the Battlegroup 42 team made, I'm not saying copy it but perhaps use the same type of font (that WWII military font type thing) it looks a lot better:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ehicleName.jpg

Like I said, it's not a big thing but it just makes everything look a lot more finshed off. Would it be hard and take a long time to implement? McGibs did a great job and I was just wondering if someone could finish it all off.

Arisaka December 21st, 2004 07:50 AM

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I prefer the red text. it's clean, has few extra details and is very easy to read. that BG-style was noisy.

terminal-strike December 21st, 2004 08:07 AM

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only thing I could see is experementing with black or maybe grey text. I think the bg is even harder to read though, and I think the FH font is better as well.

schoolkid December 21st, 2004 09:37 AM

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You guys could just use the trademark FH font, "Interplanetary Crap" or whatever. But it's fine as is, I don't really care.

BAM December 21st, 2004 09:41 AM

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heh i think we can let NoCoolonesleft (aka Grease_monkah) change the text on all the +250 Vehclie icons ;)

[SYN] hydraSlav December 21st, 2004 10:02 AM

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I love these cosmetic changes that make the mod more polished/complete. No one who just downloads the mod knows if the missing p3 is even supposed to be there, and most likely they won't even know what it is. But they will definatelly notice the inconsistencies in available icons.

I love the fact that i know what vehicle i am in, but the current red tex is, IMHO, just too bulky. I am not saying that BG's text is easier to read though...

BUGS]FHMod[ December 21st, 2004 10:19 AM

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The font is hard to read when small.

And only a little thing... I think a little thing is something different than to change more than 200 icons...

NoCoolOnesLeft December 21st, 2004 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BAM
heh i think we can let NoCoolonesleft (aka Grease_monkah) change the text on all the +250 Vehclie icons ;)

If I knew how to, I would, you know that. I'm not bringing it up because I'm picky, it's just that the little things like the name font and colour give a good impression of a mod. It makes people say "hey, they really pay attention to detail here" and whatever.

Bugs, I'm not talking about font size, but about the style of the font itself, I dunno why but the current font keeps reminding me of 0.5 for some reason. That's not a bad thing exactly, but if we can have excellent health bars with all the gun calibres on and stuff, then why do we have bulky red writing? Sometimes it's difficult to read because it's out of focus.

When I say it's a 'little thing' I mean it's not as important as something like a Panzer III or a proper Bocage map, I'm not talking about the time taken to do it and such. So please dont get confused with the terms there.

Anyway, if you dont change the font then that's ok, but at least consider the minimap modification I mentioned. No one seems to have answered that one, but it was my main point.

JAGUART December 21st, 2004 12:12 PM

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I think the weapons/ vehicles naming & icons are excellent. They've made them a lot more noob friendly.

Scope02 December 21st, 2004 01:37 PM

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ya i agree, small changes like that make you feel like its profesionally done. I'm not that kind of guy who gets all excited and screams at the top of his lungs to see a panzer III or something (i still get excited) i just like to see things get polished up, but something like this would be pretty cool.
A pretty nice font would be the one on all the loading screens to name the vehicles, and even a better hud like bullet holes on steel or something. And on the edge of the hud the Forgotten Hope logo. It will make you guys look like pros.
ya its kinda boring just renaming all the damn names with diferent fonts, but you got alot of time, i mean just do 30 names a week and you'll be done by the release of .7 or something.

Personally i would like to see better animations on weapons and such, simple edits. But thats a pain just to do, but once again, you have lots of time.
Can't you just import animations from battlefield vietnam? (if you guys can) cuz you can use the motar animation and other things. And for holding deployable machine guns, maybe use the AT holding anime but with just one hand holding the MG and the other hand just moving like hes running instead of using the mines anime.

But im getting way off topic, anyways you dont have to do this, but it would look really nice to have things like this.
ty once again, we are lucky to even have a mod like this! :bows:

[SYN] hydraSlav December 21st, 2004 04:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCoolOnesLeft
I dunno why but the current font keeps reminding me of 0.5 for some reason.

Cause of the "Dummy Icon" in huge red font of the same style :rolleyes:


Quote:

I think a little thing is something different than to change more than 200 icons...
Correct me if i am wrong, but considering the files are extraced, it's just a matter of photoshoping. Time consuming? Yes, but i am sure a lot of people here would be more then glad to help (me included :D ). And there is no need to make the person that helped an FH Dev member or anything. You work for free on this mod, lots of community members would love to help, expecting nothing in return

FactionRecon December 21st, 2004 06:26 PM

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Personally I don't like the vehicle labels that show up when you're in. I mean, if I don't know what I'm in even after I get in, I'm kind of useless if not a moron, no? I'm not sure why they were placed there in the first place. They serve no real purpose...

Apro-FIN- December 21st, 2004 06:40 PM

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BTW: Would it be possible to make the icons of AA guns, cannons, etc. at minimap to show to the direction they are facing to?

I know this would be kind of like showing the turret direction instead of the emplacement facing direction but if it would be possible it would certainly help at least me. I get confused and dizzy after spinning my AA gun for too long after enemy fighters making it harder to compare the planes I see to the own planes on minimap.

FactionRecon December 21st, 2004 07:04 PM

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That's a good idea. Shouldn't be too hard, right?

Abearikishiswisscheese December 21st, 2004 08:11 PM

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If the text seems out of focus, it's probably not the devs fault. BF has a weird way of doing text to where if you have your graphics set a certain way it's almost unreadable.

Also, I think that the name of the vehicle showing up when you enter is great. I know that it has helped at least me. There are tons of vehicles that look almost alike but are completely different. It's nice if you know about these differences by name you can figure out which one's which.

Arisaka December 21st, 2004 10:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apro-FIN-
BTW: Would it be possible to make the icons of AA guns, cannons, etc. at minimap to show to the direction they are facing to?

I know this would be kind of like showing the turret direction instead of the emplacement facing direction but if it would be possible it would certainly help at least me. I get confused and dizzy after spinning my AA gun for too long after enemy fighters making it harder to compare the planes I see to the own planes on minimap.

easy to fix at client side. use "non-static mini-map" somewhere around extra settings or something inside BF. same place where you set the color of your CH. i've used this for some time now, and it has multiple advantages. main disadvantage is that if you're driving or flying diagonally close to the borders and corners of the map it sometimes clips it

Admiral Donutz December 22nd, 2004 04:59 AM

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i prefer FH's font, much more clear and easier to read. I don't have any issues with the current interface what so ever.

[SYN] hydraSlav December 22nd, 2004 03:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FactionRecon
Personally I don't like the vehicle labels that show up when you're in. I mean, if I don't know what I'm in even after I get in, I'm kind of useless if not a moron, no? I'm not sure why they were placed there in the first place. They serve no real purpose...

Hey, i still don't know those african campaign tanks: crusader, something else, Just recently i started to identify a churchill from a cromwell. Planes? There are way too many variants and they all look the same anyways (besides the Stuka of course :rolleyes: ). And what about all the trucks, etc, which usually don't feature in the "kill" lines, so you have no idea what that is.

Furthermore, to me, Flak18 and Flak88 look the same, so unless there is a name on the icon, i won't know what i am firing.

Most of the people that play the game are not history buffs, and don't know this vehicles. And it's a great help to anyone new to the mod, or even experienced but lazy people like me.

Mazz December 23rd, 2004 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by [SYN] hydraSlav
Furthermore, to me, Flak18 and Flak88 look the same, so unless there is a name on the icon, i won't know what i am firing.

Um, that is the exact same thing. I've never even noticed Flak88 come up.


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