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A bigger effective range when compared to another smg. Not when compared to a k98. Considering now you can fire a smg with the same accuracy as a rifle. Read alittle more of what you posted...ACCURATE ENOUGH. Enough being the key word there. Not uberaccurte at 200 yds. I think they did a test of all early model WWII smgs not to long ago. Ill have to find it. They found the mp40 most accurate over range, but with less stopping power. The ppsh was 2nd accurate, with the same stopping. The thomson was least accurate over distance, but had better stopping.

No ones ever going to argue that when in close combat a smg should dominate. The problem is right now there is no drop off for them. They can fire to any range with accuracy and put more lead in that area then any rifle can. Close combat is 50 to 100 yds. Anything more then that a smg is just being used to lay a volume of fire to keep enemys heads down. Not accuratly snipe them from windows. We must find some sort of value to represent this. Try to figure out in game what fifty to a hundred yards is equal to. Then make smg's suck after this distance.

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It was developed after Crete, that's 41. Accepted for service it was in 1944, the gun was done way earlier, but the Heereswaffenamt denied it's approval till the war was nearly over.

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Listen, RPDs we're not used in WW2... Drop it... :nodding:

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The FG42-1 was in service before 1944, but only 2,000 were produced. In 1944 the "improved" FG42-2 was made to help the gun's accuracy on full atuo. 5,000 of the second model were made.

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MG3 is a very large weapon. It is the ancestor of modern LMGs in that it is compact, easily portable, and is fired from both unsupported and supported positions. The MG42 was large, heavy, and could only be fired from a tripod or bipod without effecting accuracy too much.

And, Mihail, you are definatly thinking of the RPK. Developed from the AK-47, it entered service in 1950s. Besides, do you think that in a nation at war, it would take over four years for a gun to be developed and put into production?

Give me three sources on the introduction date of the RPD and then I will believe you. Until then, don't argue.

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Yet in FH we can run, spray, backflip, jump some more, continue to spray, dive, reload. Gotta love it.

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The only automic weapon the russians need is the DShk. A ppd would be nice but all it would be is a skin over the ppsh.

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RPD-44..was developed in 1944. The AK-47..was devoloped in fourty seven. Don't confuse it with the AK-46, which was an Ak developed in 1946. And let this bee a statement to all you bloody fools who say the 47 is a copy of the STG-44. Fancy that it uses a completely differant firing mechanism and gas recycle system..closer to the SVT-40!

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Well, there is no denying a physical similarity...

AK-47
http://www.wargameclub.com/gun-folder/images/ak47.jpg

STG44
http://www.diggerhistory.info/images...ewhr-stg44.jpg

However, the similarities stop there.

BTW: Could you please post a link of this AK-46? I know of the 47, 74, Special Units Models (AK-74SU), Dragnov, RPK and PKM, but not of the AK-46

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http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/models.html

There you go mate! Every AK you ever wanted to know. There are tons. Personal favourite is the AK-108. 7.62 roolz!

And for you whiny bitches. PPSH fired some pretty big 7.62x25 rounds.

http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/models/ka30.html =Ak-46