I know how to fix this! When a player exits the plane, he appears INSIDE the cockpit, standing on the seat, and has to actually press the jump button to get out of the plane. This would give enough time for pilots to kill the plane, and give the person a chance at the same time, depending on their jumping skills. And it would be some-what realistic. Showing how hard it can be sometimes to get out of a plane that is falling at 200 mph while on fire. Sound good? Perhaps even make a cockpit glass jettison animaton when they get out. Oh and heres one more suggestion for planes: When they catch on fire can you make them go out of control? like since its so damaged it would roll and twist and shake and stuff, instead if flying perfectly straight at a gentle speed towards the ground.
Last edited by Lupin; October 22nd, 2004 at 07:16 PM.
Nothing. If you look at my 1st quote response you see I can be one also. Its just bailing w/o is a more annoying, and less respctful level of asshole. Unless your bailing on a Bofors kill, then I dont care if you plummet to your death or not.
A funny account by a US airman was that a German fw190 pilot rolled his plane over, opened the canopy, unfastend his restraints, got out of the cockpit, waited then deployed his chute at which point the straps broke and he fell to his demise.
What a bad way to go...
You people get so frustrated at people bailing from planes without chutes? Tells me something about priorities here. You kill the plane, he's gone, it's all for the team guys. And I noticed a couple members said that they were for team points only, while they had just previously complained about their score because of a bailer.
Look people, bailers are dumb, but I really don't think this idea is the best way of stopping these morons.
Besides, I pack on my score with straifing, too, try that instead of whining sometime.
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This debate pops up all the time, and I always seem to be the only one who likes to see plane bailers!
The joy of seeing joe selfish leaping to his death after I flame his ass is a never ending source of joy.
Knowing that instead of me having to hunt him down to stop him from capping a rear flag cause he's smart and grabbed a chute but instead is most likely TK'ing a team mate on the runway so he can try to exact his revenge on me makes it even sweeter.
I love you joe selfish, I love that you're on the other side and I love to see your name in grey, it's much more rewarding than a point. Bail away dumbass.
If we're going to take that view, then I should give up all hope of a logical concusion with the presuppositions that we all want to enjoy the game and be nice to each other.
I personally don't mind the score difference, what I mind is playing with people who think like you.
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I always jump out on purpose, purely because I don't want the asshole behind me, who just shot up my plane, to give the damn kill. He already shot my plane, pissing me off, so why should I do him a favour?
See? It's this kind of attitude. I'm pissed because I got killed and I'm going to make life less enjoyable for everyone else. The guy who shot you isn't an asshole, he's a player doing his part. Have some respect for your fellow gamer.
This issue has been discussed quite a few times in the forums, but I don't think this suggestion has seriously been brought up yet.
Don't you just hate chuteless bailers? You take your time to chase the plane around the map, and as the plane bursts out in flames the idiot bails out, usually intentionally to deny your kill, sometimes for pure ignorance. This is in my opinion not very sporty. You dogfight, loose and go down with the plane or bail out with the chute, still giving the opposing pilot a chance to strafe you if he's good enough.
Now when we think of it, what do you think these guys are after? Good dogfights? Nahh.. Teamplay? Not very likely. Kills? I guess that's pretty close. By bailing you go down faster, letting you get a new plane a tad faster. Not only that, you take the kill away from the other pilot, bringing you one point closer to top.
So, how would it sound like, if is-no-moreing gave you -1 or -2 points instead of just one death? I'm pretty confident it's possible to code too. At least many other mods have differing scoring system, like an old XWWII version, which you got -2 points from dying, or various mods giving you few extra points from flag captures. Surely you die from high drops, climbing ladders with low hitpoints, crashing planes and such, but in my opinion -2 scores from that would be a lot less annoying than seeing another idiot bailing out.
Now, for upcoming arguments about how kills don't matter and so on..
I agree, but it'd still be nice to get something from shooting the other plane down. Dogfighting rarely brings you to top of the score list anyway, so I'm not about high score either.
I for one just happen to rank bailing out of the plane without a chute one of the most idiotic acts currently in BF, right next to teamkilling.
I agree completely. Good call.
I always make it a point to harass and goad anyone who bails. I also make it a point to always go down with my plane if I don't have a chute. Same with tanks, unless its a crappy Panzer IVD. If you shoot my tank and it catches on fire, Im sure as hell not leaving it for you to capture. Unless its a Panzer IVD. Then you can have it.
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Just set up the planes like the Hurricane MkII with the closing cockpit and set the exit point so you can't bail with the cockpit closed. The players have to slow down to bail.
This also eliminates accidental bailing . . . . . which is irritating to say the least . . . . . killing a bomber and tapping 'W' to keep your speed down for a longer time on it's tail . . . . . about to kill it and your outside your plane cause you accidentally pressed 'E'
or players have to manually open the cockpit to bailout, ie with the ramp keys.
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you wouldn't get out. ever. because when you're in there all of a sudden you start flying inside the cockpit, so that you can't jump out of your seat. then your head would be smashed by the plane. remember the super stallion and hercules on DC? keep it simple, keep it working!
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Re: Suggestion to prevent bailing without a chute 
And it would be some-what realistic. Showing how hard it can be sometimes to get out of a plane that is falling at 200 mph while on fire. 
Sound good? Perhaps even make a cockpit glass jettison animaton when they get out. Oh and heres one more suggestion for planes: When they catch on fire can you make them go out of control? like since its so damaged it would roll and twist and shake and stuff, instead if flying perfectly straight at a gentle speed towards the ground. 
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