Suggestion to prevent bailing without a chute

[Anlushac11]

Originally Posted by terminal-strike

well so much for people caring about there battlefield life! We cant exepct people to scared of suppresive fire and then ride there planes to the death at the same time. Bailing is a realistic activity and if people expect a kill point they should finish the plane of properly in an explosion.

How can you finish off the plane to make it explode if the guy bails as soon as he's taking damage?

A Pilot with no chute in real life might try to ride the plane down in attempt to ditch or crash land so he can survive and so the plane can be repaired and reused.

They are not bailing about any care for saving there battlefield life, they are bailing for the sole purpose of denying the enemy a point.

Whats the difference if they decide to pussy out and bail and fall to their death and die causing their team to lose 2 points for the sole purpose of spiting the enemy pilot or staying in and dying and the other team gets a point.

Which is more harmful to the team, a member suiciding or the enemy getting one point?

I have stood and watched MG42 who is a dammed good pilot literally single handedly sweep the skies of enemy planes and seen IIRC 8 pilots in a row jump to their death rather than let him have the kill. No chutes just jump and die.

[WarHawk109]

It sure is funny though.

[striderx2048]

he needs to kill them faster, 42 tends to stop firing after the plane is on fire, i saw blow the focker to kingdom come.

[terminal-strike]

well thats its own problem, if people chicken out of dogfight as soon as they take damage- then delaying exit wont stop that anyway.

I already mentioned the idea for a + point for getting the plane itself, but that would be hard to implement without abuse.

The things is that however annoying denying the 'kill is, it was part of rl and part of the game. Now if they don't even have parachutes then a better case can be made for it since there not valuing there life anyway, but thats not something Iv seen as much of as people having chutes. In anycase even in rl if a pilot wanted to ditch without a chute that was still his option.

What this really comes down is sportsmanship, that if somone manages to to get you you give the point. However, in realism mod its hard to make a real case for this as its not realistic that pilots want to allow the enemy to kill them. If people have a chute, its there obligation to bail for the team. If they dont, then there a annoying wussy bailer and it means that as a pilot you need kill the plane quicker, and not be nearly equally wussy for whining about as an excuse for not finishing the plane off in time.

[Kahju]

I wonder what is the issue here. The job of the airforce is to negate the enemy airforce. If the enemy pilot bails the plane the moment he starts to take damage, the air threat is reduced to nill and the pilots job is done.

If the issue is over few lost points in online multiplayergame, I call that sad

[Frederf]

Bailing in this manner (choosing to splat vs give the person the kill) is about the most jackass thing someone can do. I'm all for bailing with a chute; about 1/2 the replies here are of the type "Why shouldn't I bail out? It's my right as a chute holding American!". To these people: You are idiots, read the actual thread.

The staggering thing about splat-bailers is that jumping out like this serves NO PURPOSE other than to be a jackass. Does it change the ticket count? No. Does it save your plane? No. Do you remain alive? No. There is nothing at all to gain about jumping to splat vs staying with the aircraft and dying that way (because your n00bish ADD riddled self couldn't take the 3 sec to get a pilot kit).

Everytime you see someone bail and splat you have to realize they had a choice. "I know I'm going to die anyway, it won't make the damn slightest bit of difference to myself or my team which way this is going to happen. I KNOW, I'LL REDUCE THE OTHER PLAYER'S ENJOYMENT OF THE GAME BY BEING AN ASSHOLE."

Think this everytime you see it happen because it's true.

[Bupo]

what about people who dont pick up a pilot kit because they'd rather be able to land and repair their plane with an engineering kit, most of the time i fly with an engineer kit rather than have a pilot kit which is useless for combat once on the ground.

somtimes a skilled enough splat bailer can bail at just the right moment before impact on the ground to survive.

as far as preventing splat bailers i think its a TERRIBLE IDEA to make "is-no-more-ing" subtract -1 or -2 points from your score, thats stupid to penalize people for every buggy death that happened while trying to walk down bf1942's very dangerous stair cases.

for the most part if you cant destroy the plane before they bail, even if it is to prevent your kill, than i guess you just werent good enough to kill them.

but if you really wanted to prevent bailing with no parachute...than why not....i dunno, lock people in the planes unless they have a pilot kit. make it impossible to leave a plane unless it is on the ground or untill theyre within like 4 feet of the ground, in which case if they bail and splat you get credit for a "[killed]" anyways

[Kingrudolf]

I always jump out on purpose, purely because I don't want the asshole behind me, who just shot up my plane, to give the damn kill. He already shot my plane, pissing me off, so why should I do him a favour? And I almost never use the Pilot kit, you never know who's already taking a plane, so I don't spawn with the kit. But when a good plane is available, I'm going straight to it, pilot kit or not. It's first come first get in this game. Also, bailing out with a chute doesn't offer anything I can use. See, the gun is pretty much useless (except the overpowered n02), and you'll end up in the middle of frickin nowhere anyway, only to get shot by a passing tank after having walked to a flag for 10 minutes. Those, are just all the facts of the game.

[Mazz]

It is like some days ago i was playing bombing the reich and i was the sole survivor on axis side after the allied bombed the factories. Whole server (including axis team) was telling me to commit suicide because and cause my team to loose the battle. The time would have run out in 3 minutes anyway. I guess people ARE that worried of their Kill per minute stats.

YOU SIR, are a dumbshit. They weren't yelling at you about kpm ratios, they wanted to end the damn round and get on with the game. Christ, is it that hard to understand?

I always jump out on purpose, purely because I don't want the asshole behind me, who just shot up my plane, to give the damn kill. He already shot my plane, pissing me off, so why should I do him a favour? And I almost never use the Pilot kit, you never know who's already taking a plane, so I don't spawn with the kit. But when a good plane is available, I'm going straight to it, pilot kit or not. It's first come first get in this game. Also, bailing out with a chute doesn't offer anything I can use. See, the gun is pretty much useless (except the overpowered n02), and you'll end up in the middle of frickin nowhere anyway, only to get shot by a passing tank after having walked to a flag for 10 minutes. Those, are just all the facts of the game.

Rudolf, bailing is a real asshole manunver, its better to learn how to fly evasively. I figured out some things that con usually get you out of a dogfight pretty quickly. Sooner or later your gonna play BoB and the enemy pilots will just keep bailing on you and you'll see why people complain about this.

[WarHawk109]

What's wrong with being an asshole?