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Major Hartmann October 20th, 2004 12:25 PM

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Hehe, right, think about it this way: in WW2 many figther pilots were glad to see their victim got out of his plane...

MkH^ October 20th, 2004 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Major Hartmann
Really great idea USMA....

About the points: There is no difference between dying ang getting died, so this is not real practical.

So, you'd get minus scores from simply getting shot too?

FactionRecon October 20th, 2004 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by terminal-strike
Bailing is a realistic activity, most of time when people bail Iv seen them open up shoots. I never even cared becasue this is what often happened in rl when plane was only partially damaged.

Of course in rl even if pilot bailed it could count as a kill. The key would be giving pilots a point for destroyed aircraft but not a kill. I would not how to do this without avioding abuse though.

I think until then for pilots to actually get a 'kill; point they should be good enough to blow the plane up.

This is actually a wonderful idea. Perhaps 1 point for desroying aircraft. But then again, that would lead to airfiled camping with a tank or something blowing up planes as they spawn...

Anlushac11 October 20th, 2004 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Major Hartmann
Hehe, right, think about it this way: in WW2 many figther pilots were glad to see their victim got out of his plane...

I agree. There seemed to be a bond between most pilots just like there are sailors at sea. While engaged in combat they were the enemy but as soon asn the plane was going down or the enemy ship was sunk there was a mutual respect an compassion for the enemy. Not Always but most of the time.

This did not apply in the Pacifica nd CBI. This was pretty much a race war marred by its brutality on both sides and in alot of places there was no quarter. I have never heard of Germans eating the livers of downed Allied pilots.

@tERMINAL sTRIKE: If they bail in a chute fine, I usually dont even strafe them til they are on thre ground but just to bail because your pissed off cuz you got owned is cheap regardless of how you look at it.

Its not the gamnes fault, its the mentality of the players, like people who teamkill cuz they dont want you to get a plane or tank. I have seen guys T/K for a plane just so they can kamikaze.

striderx2048 October 20th, 2004 03:17 PM

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I dont care, a dead pilot is a dead pilot

Mdbook October 20th, 2004 04:05 PM

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You know you shot down the plane why do you care if everyone else knows it?

I personally get satisfaction out of downing a zero with my wildcat and even if he bails out I feel good for beating him in a dogfight.

Besides, StriderX is right: A dead pilot is a dead pilot and a plane that won't respawn for at least a minute or two. It still gives the enemy team -1 ticket. Its really a non-issue and there are more important things to focus on right now in this mod.

Whoever had air superiority in WW2 had a very huge advantage and that is exactly what downing a plane in this game allows for your team. It allows your tanks free reign while at the same time the enemy is getting hard hit by your team's bombers.

WarHawk109 October 20th, 2004 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dee-Jaý
Fair enough I guess ! I´d support it !


I might add that you should get 1 point for turning a flag grey, and an additional 2 points for claiming the flag for your side.

Quoted for emphasis.

I can't count the number of points i've lost due to some idiot tking me while i'm capturing a flag. I wonder if it could be coded that if someone tks you while you are capturing a flag, the offender would lose additional points?

As for the bailing issue, I only do that if I deem it be an unfair fight, such as if I had just taken off etc. Planes are hard to get, and I will not give you the satisfaction of killing me just after take off.

Anlushac11 October 20th, 2004 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WarHawk109
As for the bailing issue, I only do that if I deem it be an unfair fight, such as if I had just taken off etc. Planes are hard to get, and I will not give you the satisfaction of killing me just after take off.

Many pilots got killed trying to take off in the face of an enemy raid. What makes you so special?

I have been killed many times on Guadalcanal and El Alamein while taking off and I have never bailed unless I had a chute. In fact I dont even bother grabbing a pilot kit anymore, if I get shot down then I get shot down and I ride it down.

WarHawk109 October 20th, 2004 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Anlushac11
Many pilots got killed trying to take off in the face of an enemy raid. What makes you so special?

I have been killed many times on Guadalcanal and El Alamein while taking off and I have never bailed unless I had a chute. In fact I dont even bother grabbing a pilot kit anymore, if I get shot down then I get shot down and I ride it down.

It depends. :| I only gave that as an example.

terminal-strike October 20th, 2004 04:38 PM

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well so much for people caring about there battlefield life! We cant exepct people to scared of suppresive fire and then ride there planes to the death at the same time. Bailing is a realistic activity and if people expect a kill point they should finish the plane of properly in an explosion.


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