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USMA2010 September 10th, 2004 09:01 AM

Real BotB
 
No offense to the vets of the 82nd at Vith, but their story is not that exciting. The DiCE map is crap, and should be scrapped asap. i would like to see a map about the 101st defending bastagone. it should be about the size of foy, except the entire map should be forrested, with buildings in the far rear with some 105s (with less shells than normal) and med closets. the germans should have some tanks, but make them hard to move, like foy and the is2. idealy new custom pine trees should be used, seeing how the ardennes is thousands of years old.

the spawn kits

USA
Officer Thompson
Rifleman, Garand (less ammo than normal)
Support, randomized between .30cal MGs and bazookas.
Medic, no ammo, just a knife and a medpack. (if the germans kill them, the one doing the kill should loose points)
engineer, carbine, mines, satchel, wrench

Germany

Officer MP40
Rifleman, randomized between K98, STG44, and G43. Preferably k98s most, stgs least.
Support, light mg42
CQB MP40, grenades
Tanker walther p38, knife wrench.

ai c47s should fly over and drop ammo randomly. maybe even make it so that if the germans cap a certain flag (one that makes the americans in deep shit) the 6thAD rides to the rescue in some shermans and jacksons.

German Armor:
1 Tiger/KT
A few captured shermans or various british tanks
a panzer4 ausfA.

Meadow September 10th, 2004 10:15 AM

Re: Real BotB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by USMA2010
No offense to the vets of the 82nd at Vith, but their story is not that exciting. The DiCE map is crap, and should be scrapped asap. i would like to see a map about the 101st defending bastagone. it should be about the size of foy, except the entire map should be forrested, with buildings in the far rear with some 105s (with less shells than normal) and med closets. the germans should have some tanks, but make them hard to move, like foy and the is2. idealy new custom pine trees should be used, seeing how the ardennes is thousands of years old.

the spawn kits

USA
Officer Thompson
Rifleman, Garand (less ammo than normal)
Support, randomized between .30cal MGs and bazookas.
Medic, no ammo, just a knife and a medpack. (if the germans kill them, the one doing the kill should loose points)
engineer, carbine, mines, satchel, wrench

Germany

Officer MP40
Rifleman, randomized between K98, STG44, and G43. Preferably k98s most, stgs least.
Support, light mg42
CQB MP40, grenades
Tanker walther p38, knife wrench.

ai c47s should fly over and drop ammo randomly. maybe even make it so that if the germans cap a certain flag (one that makes the americans in deep shit) the 6thAD rides to the rescue in some shermans and jacksons.

German Armor:
1 Tiger/KT
A few captured shermans or various british tanks
a panzer4 ausfA.

Nice idea! To represent the 6th AD, how about three Shermans and a Jackson spawn at a rear US base if the Germans capture an imperitive flag? I beliebve that's codeable.

Gnar_Kill September 10th, 2004 11:13 AM

Re: Real BotB
 
another thought for the US rifleman, randomize it so that some have k98's.

USMA2010 September 10th, 2004 01:08 PM

Re: Real BotB
 
not sure about k98s...

all get some more info about the 6thAD at botb from my grandfather, he was a commander of a platoon of jacksons there.

a battle of hurtgen forrest would asl be nice, but not necessary.

Josey Wales September 10th, 2004 02:58 PM

Re: Real BotB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by USMA2010
Medic, no ammo, just a knife and a medpack. (if the germans kill them, the one doing the kill should loose points)



Does the word "SDK" mean anything to you ?


JW

Kingrudolf September 10th, 2004 03:14 PM

Re: Real BotB
 
What map is this supposed to be??

Nechre September 10th, 2004 04:19 PM

Re: Real BotB
 
it's supposed to be outside bastogne.

And yeah, this should be in the mapping forums for sure.

Mdbook September 10th, 2004 04:24 PM

Re: Real BotB
 
I mean its a pretty good idea but where exactly do the jacksons fit in? They won because armor came to the rescue (otherwise this map will be awfully one sided and not much fun to be spawn raped if your Allies).

I guess if there is one flag left some Jacksons can spawn and help push the Germans back, and that might add a nice element to the battle. Not only should there be custom pine trees, but lots of foxholes for the Allies to dig in and fortify themselves. Otherwise the Axis wil just roll over the weak Allied defenses.

It could be a good map, but it would have to be played right or it would just turn into a spawn rape fest when the Allies have only one flag left.

Dee-Jaŭ September 10th, 2004 04:35 PM

Re: Real BotB
 
Basing BotB on Foy is way of scale. It has been suggested numberus times and I think you´ll find that Operation "Wacht am Rhein" has some similarities to the "Siege of Bastogne".

http://forgottenhope.bf1942files.com...nd_minimap.jpg

Andrew_HK September 10th, 2004 08:42 PM

Re: Real BotB
 
Medic, no ammo, just a knife and a medpack. (if the germans kill them, the one doing the kill should loose points)

what should the German do if all American do medic?
idea for medic is good, but "german lose point idea" is bad

Arisaka September 11th, 2004 01:36 AM

Re: Real BotB
 
well, what if they simply don't GAIN points?

if the americans all spawn as medics they're at a tactical disadvantage, as they can't defend themselves. the germans run around them spraying them with MP40s... if you throw a grenade into a truck filled with medics you simply get 10 kills, +0points and you've hindered the enemy from getting through...

Al Capone September 11th, 2004 04:48 AM

Re: Real BotB
 
Another person who watched Band of Brothers and wants everything in it.

No medics please!

The general idea is being considered for sure, but we already have Battle of the Bulge and Operation Nordwind.

And no never scrap battle of the bulge it's one of the best Dice maps and is totaly balanced.Maybe rename it since the name like now is like calling omaha beach D Day.

USMA2010 September 11th, 2004 09:19 AM

Re: Real BotB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nechre
it's supposed to be outside bastogne.

And yeah, this should be in the mapping forums for sure.

hey there noob. see the "suggestion" topic? didnt think soo

PvtRyan September 11th, 2004 12:22 PM

Re: Real BotB
 
i agree, BotB needs to be scrapped. i love your idea too, but make it so you only have 1 clip of ammo in your gun as you spawn and make some garand/thompson pickup kits that got 10 clips, and if u do that make it so theres 0 ammo crates, or put in a resupply truck

Nechre September 11th, 2004 01:27 PM

Re: Real BotB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by USMA2010
hey there noob. see the "suggestion" topic? didnt think soo

Hey there bud, don't call me a noob.

In the FH mapping forum there is a little post, this post is called "Map Ideas Thread."

And if you can't tell by the name, USMA2010, and I know you can't, because you seem to have the intelligence of a rock, it's for posting your ideas for maps.

I'm sure it could go in the suggestions board and still be legal, but hey, I'm just saying, use the FH mapping board more often, people.

So, hey, I may be right, you may be right, don't call me a noob, thanks.

USMA2010 September 11th, 2004 05:13 PM

Re: Real BotB
 
no, its for desplaying your maps and for having people suggest them. noob. now, go through the suggestions forum and look at all the map suggestions...

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:0wned:


i just love how you go from condsending asshat to "you might be right, i might be right" nice guy. lmfao

Vertical345 September 11th, 2004 05:25 PM

Re: Real BotB
 
if the whole area was forested it would cause major lag, believe me, i know it.

also, the idea of medics is just plain dumb, everything about it is just stupid to be frank.

Plus, i like the battle of the buldge that dice made, its balanced and its very fun, no need to change it.

USMA2010 September 11th, 2004 05:33 PM

Re: Real BotB
 
well, im glad you feel that way. now, i really think that the vast majority of the people here dont give a flying fuck about balance. if you dont want realism, go play battlegroup.

and aside from just saying "this is dumb", why dont you share with us why? enlighten us as to why you decided to reveal just how lacking you are between the ears.

Cyb3rwarrior September 12th, 2004 02:19 AM

Re: Real BotB
 
The Germans would never use captured armored vehicles (and Im sure they didn't) in this offensive, considering the armored units were Waffen SS and EXTREMELY well suppied.

Mike 51 September 12th, 2004 05:51 AM

Re: Real BotB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by USMA2010
well, im glad you feel that way. now, i really think that the vast majority of the people here dont give a flying fuck about balance. if you dont want realism, go play battlegroup.

and aside from just saying "this is dumb", why dont you share with us why? enlighten us as to why you decided to reveal just how lacking you are between the ears.

Lol, you really can't handle criticism, can you? :lol:

If you'd like some more, here goes. The map idea is too contrived; it sounds too much like a single player 'map triggers' level than a realistic multiplayer map. Also, FH has declared itself solidly against medics... I don't think there's even any pickup kits left, let alone as a spawnable class. Plus, there's now 2 Bulge maps, as well as another new US v. Germany tank map, and I don't think the devs really want to make another.

MkH^ September 12th, 2004 06:40 AM

Re: Real BotB
 
duh, wrong topic.


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