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USMA2010 September 1st, 2004 01:08 PM

PBY Catalina
 
Are we ever going to see the famous PBY Catalina flying boat? This would kick ass at midway, and maybe even Atlantic. They could be armed with 4 500 lb bombs, or a number of depth charges to sink subs. you could either build a dock for it, or make it a mobile SP like the Betty. The British also had a very large flying boat used to sink subs and cruisers, but I cant remember the name. mondo, job opportunity

patilla September 1st, 2004 01:22 PM

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post any scrennie man!

Free September 1st, 2004 01:33 PM

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www.google.com
Anyway I think it would be a good addition to Midway too, it was crucial to find ships and in game it can be used as an artillery spotter removing the swordfish on the PoW and I guess it can be used as a bomber or depth charger bomber (I really like the second one :) )...

Creeping Death September 1st, 2004 01:47 PM

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The British flying boat your refering to is called the Sunderland.

ManiK September 1st, 2004 01:49 PM

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There were some threads a while back about it, it was used by the 3 main western allied nations, US, Canada, Britain, and it saw action in the Atlantic and Pacific I think it should definitely go in as well.

LIGHTNING [NL] September 1st, 2004 01:49 PM

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Lobo is working on one (or perhaps it's already finished). You'll see it one day, but probably not in 0.65.

And it's been suggested before...

Uncle_Sam September 1st, 2004 02:40 PM

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It would be pretty neat to see. I got the chance to visit the Naval Air Museum this summer in Pensacol, Fl and saw 1. They also had a cut-away version of the fuselage. I tell you, that's one cramped thing. But it was really impressive, had its own little kitchen area and bunks and all. It was like a Flying-RV. Anyways, sorry about the semi-OT, it would be a pretty cool addition. If the Storch gets in, I say why not the PBY

USMA2010 September 1st, 2004 03:05 PM

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http://www.felixemeyer.de/bilder/vb303_catalina.jpgo. ok, good, thanks. heres a pic patilla

Frederf September 1st, 2004 03:41 PM

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What realistic and useful armement and uses would thie PBY and Sunderland have?

Rescue rubber rafts for swimmers
Torpedoes
Sea Mines
Depth charges
Sonar
Artillery spot
Tail gunner

Kämpfer September 1st, 2004 03:43 PM

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It has been modelled.

USMA2010 September 1st, 2004 04:05 PM

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me no thinka torpeda

Skipster September 1st, 2004 04:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by USMA2010
me no thinka torpeda

Actually, I think there was a squadron called the "Black Cats" that made night torpedo runs on Japanese ships. Dunno if use was more widespread though.

Japanese H6K and H8K planes would be a nice addition.

The Italians probably have a cool flying boat or two as well.

USMA2010 September 1st, 2004 04:51 PM

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ive never seen torps on a cat, maybes mod

Frederf September 1st, 2004 07:02 PM

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What roles did PBYs and similar planes fill?

Recon, Maritime patrol (armed)? Pilot rescue?

USMA2010 September 1st, 2004 07:06 PM

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anti ship and anti submarine. fleet patrol, pilot rescue, laison.

Anlushac11 September 1st, 2004 07:25 PM

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Yup Black Cat PBY's were used with great success in the Pacific. Most Jap merchant ships had no radar and very few destroyers did. And the Japanese did not have a credible night fighter force so the Balck Cats operated almost with impunity.

By painting the aircraft black they were very hard to spot at night even with searchlights and by throttling back on the attack run the Black Cats were very hard to detect audibly over the ships own noises.

As far as I know most carried a aerial torpedo under each wing. I do believe there were some that carried 2 x 500lb bomb under each wing and used skip bombing tactics to attack.

Heres some nice Black Cat pics

http://www.daveswarbirds.com/blackcat/photo4.htm

USMA2010 September 1st, 2004 07:28 PM

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did they have some sort of modified hardpoint to carry torpedoes? ive never seen a PBY-5A Cat with torps on them.

Anlushac11 September 1st, 2004 08:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by USMA2010
did they have some sort of modified hardpoint to carry torpedoes? ive never seen a PBY-5A Cat with torps on them.

http://www.betatechschools.com/fight.../catalina.html

It looks like the torpedo/depth charges required a different rack than the bombs.

Pics of PBY's with torps are as rare as P-47's with rockets

Battle of Midway, June 1942

Pilots of the four Patrol Squadron 24 (VP-24) and Patrol Squadron 51 (VP-51) PBY-5A "Catalina" patrol bombers that flew the torpedo attack mission against the Japanese fleet's Midway Occupation Force during the night of 3-4 June 1942.
Those present are (left to right):
Lieutentant (Junior Grade) Douglas C. Davis, of VP-24;
Ensign Allan Rothenberg, of VP-51;
Lieutenant William L. Richards, Executive Officer of Patrol Squadron 44 (VP-44), who flew in a VP-24 aircraft on this mission; and
Ensign Gaylord D. Propst, of VP-24.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/e...way/mid-1m.htm

The Legacy October 14th, 2004 07:06 AM

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I posted another thread without realising that this thread was posted. However, it does have a bunch of screenshots that the FH team can use:

http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=153540

USMA2010 October 14th, 2004 08:18 AM

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Actually, this plane is already modeled. I think the skin is nearing completion, so our dreams are fufilled. Now, for an Fw200 and a Sunderland...

Anlushac11 October 14th, 2004 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [11PzG] USMA2010
Actually, this plane is already modeled. I think the skin is nearing completion, so our dreams are fufilled. Now, for an Fw200 and a Sunderland...

Sunderland model is done, just needs skinned.

http://forgottenhope.bf1942files.com...Sunderland.jpg

USMA2010 October 14th, 2004 08:58 AM

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omg

anlushac, i love you now, for you be the bearer of good nnews. now tell me that the fw200 condor is alomost ready for its FH debut...

Anlushac11 October 14th, 2004 09:07 AM

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:)

http://forgottenhope.bf1942files.com...rman/Fw200.jpg

Just needs skinned.

USMA2010 October 14th, 2004 09:13 AM

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OH MY DEAR SWEET GOD! ANLUSHAC I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets keep trying my luck...
B-24 Liberator?
Pe-2 Attack Bomber?
Il2-3M 37mm Sturmovik?

Anlushac11 October 14th, 2004 09:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [11PzG] USMA2010
OH MY DEAR SWEET GOD! ANLUSHAC I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets keep trying my luck...
B-24 Liberator?
Pe-2 Attack Bomber?
Il2-3M 37mm Sturmovik?

There is a B-24D but it needs skinned, the rest not yet.

http://forgottenhope.bf1942files.com.../Liberator.jpg

There has been a request for a Pe-2 put forth.

The Il-2 we have is the early model. To be accurate the Il-2M and M3 need the leading edge of the wings swept back.

As for the Il-2M3 with the 37mm guns, that could be done very easily.


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