backup speed of tanks
 

im watching the history channel about the russian armored forces, and saw a WWII vid showing a SU gun of some type backing up VERY quickly, so i was wondering, are the speed of backup in FH the actuall speed that these vehicles could go in reverse? or are they just the stock values?

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i would think they can go just as fast back wards as forwards... They just need the right kinda gearing...

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The puma has to gearboxes to allow the same speed in reverse, other than that, i dunno.

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It depends on the tank but from what I have seen most tanks had on average 6 gearboxes forward and one backward. So unless I have no idea what I am talking about then it would be able to move 1/6 as fast backwards as it could forwards.


*THIS IS A JOKE, DO NOT TAKE OFFENSE TO IT!*
Or in the case of the French(or if it offends you a generic country) they have six gearboxes in their tanks. Five for backward, one for forward incase they get attacked from behind.

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lol dont forget about the French Bayonetts to ...

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lol, I knew someone would make a French joke in this thread.

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lol, but i think i read some where that the tigers had 4 reverse gear boxes, so im just wondering, how do they decide reverse speed?

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nono they only had 4 reverse gear boxes if the crew were French SS ...

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Hey did you know the last three soldiers to be awarded the Iron Cross were French! ;)

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seriously, i thought i read that tigers had 8-10 forward gears, and 4 reverse. so Anlushac, please respond to this thread so we can know for sure :)

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I think all Tanks in FH could do with a speedboost of 20 %.

Either that, or make them travel faster on roads (dosn´t seem to be possible).

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I always thought that tanks in FH could handle rough terrain too well. In a lot of maps, there are AT defenses set up on roads.. but there is absolutely no reason to use roads. I know this is going to hurt, but wouldn't it almost be better to have some of the heavier tanks behave more like the matildaII?

Look at Gold Beach. Up the road, there are several places where AT defenses are ready for tanks. Beside the house (even though it's in a stupid place, view blocked by a hill), and further up there are more cannons that most people have probably never seen. There is NO reason for the tanks to stick to the road, so all these defenses are useless.

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Er, I'm almost positive most tanks had only one transmission. Gearbox is a slang term for a transmission. A single transmission is all that is necessary, even on specialty vehicles like the Puma. The Puma had special gear ratios, giving it equal abilities both forward and backward. There would be no good reason to put two transmissions on a tank, they are very heavy and likely not have enough benefit to make up for the additional weight.

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Gearbox: A protective casing for a system of gears.

a transmission is the entire essembly that causes the the vehicle to move, ie: engine -> Gear box -> drive shaft etc. A gear box is just one part of the transmission system. and besides, no one actually mentioned transmissions, we are all just wondering (or i was atelast) wondering how many gears tanks had and how fast they could go in reverse. and for whoever said that terrain stuff cant be done, to show ease of travel, i think i once heard a dev say that it could be done and that tanks in game actually did travel slower when not on a road.

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:lol:

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Tiger had 8 speeds forward and 4 reverse :)

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The british daimler armoured car also had as many reverse gears as forward. I'm unsure if theres any maths behind the reverse speed, or if the BF1942 engine just defines reverse speed as a % of the forward speed?

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I agree, tanks should be generally faster....I mean normally tanks were cruising on roads at speeds of 40km/h....and that is a lot...

I think the current reverse speed is only accurate with the heavier tanks, not with tanks such as the panzerIVH...

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Sorry sir, that is incorrect.

According to dictionary.com, a transmission is "an assembly of gears and associated parts by which power is transmitted from the engine to a driving axle. Also called a gearbox."

The engine, and its associated mechanisms, is not part of the transmission. The transmission is the device which keeps the engine at more-or-less constant power output while changing the ratio of engine revolutions to wheel revolutions. It is a single step in energy's journey from gasoline, through the combustion process in the engine, through the pistons and crankshaft, to the transaxle and finally to the differential and to the driving wheels of the vehicle.

The transmission assembly itself is housed in a steel compartment and filled with lubricating fluid. Hence the term 'gearbox', also noted specifically in the dictionary definition.

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French jokes = Pathetic venting by Brainwashed American Morons.(BAM)

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Gearbox examples:

Pz VI Ausf E: 8 forward, 4 reverse

Pz V Ausf D: 7 forward, 1 reverse

Pz IV: 6 foward, 1 reverse

Pz III: 6 foward, 1 reverse

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Did you read my post? If your offended then why don't you just plug a different generic country in instead.

People who are offended by jokes/insults via the internet = need to get out more.

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Noone forced you to read any of them...

*EDIT* I don't even think BAM is from America anyways.

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if you would have read this you would have understand that we were j/k ..

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and that bams not from america

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Brainwashed American Morons stands for BAM. Not the guy, the abbreviation.

*rolls eyes and shrugs*

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Thats a big word for a pretty lady...:naughty:

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the word is acronym anyway...I mean, like, duuuuh

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Maybe in North Carolina, but here in the UK abbreviation can be used in the place of acronym ;)

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your version of the dictionary sounds different than mine.

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Well in that case..who knows the french warcry? RETREAT, RETREAT!

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No No your all wrong Moldie its, wrong its !!Enemy spotted Retreat Retreat!!!

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Just to get back to the question here the amount of forward and reverse gear ratios in an armoured vehicle depends wholey on what the vehicle designers had in mind for its purpse of use, for example a MBT is designed to go forwards with infantry under heavy fire, therefore it will have more forward than reverse gears, on the other hand a reconasance armoured vehicle is designed to look, maybe shoot and then scoot. So its designed to drive as fast backwards out of a position as it is forward into a position. A very good modern example of this is the British Scorpion Tank, it has light aluminium armour, a Jaguar straight 6 cylinder 4.2 litre petrol engine connected to 7forward and 7reverse speed epicyclic gearbox which is so complex in design that the guy who designed it went mad "no joke" trying to understand how it worked. This Tank is capable of 74kph both forwards and backwards on roads. And hence its name it had a sting in its tail in the form of a 76mm main gun which for the tanks size gives quite a good punch.

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Scorpion


The Alvis Vehicles Scorpion was originally developed to meet a British Army requirement for the Combat Vehicle Reconnaissance (Tracked). The first production units were completed in 1972 armed with a 76mm gun and powered by a Jaguar 4.2-litre petrol engine.

Since then Alvis has built more than 3,000 Scorpion vehicles for the home and export market. The latest production model is powered by a more fuel-efficient diesel engine (Cummins or Perkins) and is fitted with a Cockerill 90mm gun.

A wide range of optional equipment is available including an NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) protection system, image intensification or thermal night vision equipment, a powered turret, navigation system, air-conditioning system and floatation screen, for example.

Specifications

Crew: 3

Armament: 1x 90mm gun (main); 1x 7.62mm machine gun (co-axial); 1x 7.62mm machine gun (air defence) Combat weight: 8,723kg

Power-to-weight ratio: 22.92hp/t

Power pack: Perkins diesel developing 200bhp coupled to TN15 semi-automatic transmission

Length: 5.288m

Width: 2.134m

Height: 2.102m

Max speed: 72.5km/h

Range: 756km

Airportable: C-130 Hercules

Status

Production as required. The Scorpion light tank is in service with Belgium, Botswana, Brunei, Chile, Honduras, Iran, Indonesia, Ireland, Jordan, Malaysia, Nigeria, Oman, Philippines, Spain, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, United Arab Emirates and the UK. This includes both 76mm and 90mm versions and variants.

Variants

Striker anti-tank guided weapon carrier; Spartan armoured personnel carrier; Stormer, based on components of CVR(T); Samson armoured recovery vehicle; Sultan command post vehicle; Samaritan armoured ambulance, Scimitar and Sabre (30mm cannon).

Manufacturer

Alvis Vehicles Ltd, Telford, England