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Artie May 8th, 2004 10:06 AM

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From I've read, the Finnish army was all but done, but the spring thaws came in March of 1940 and Stalin abandoned the war effort in Finland. By the end of the war, the Finns did give up 10% of their land to the USSR, giving the Soviets more of a buffer zone against future invasions. This helped them during the Continuation War, which lasted into 1944.

What can I say, the Soviets didn't win the war, but they gained some ground. Russia's never been known to be an offensive military country, anyways. :p

In winter warfare, the defender has a huge advantage.

MkH^ May 8th, 2004 10:06 AM

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Since we probably won't see finnish weapons in FH in a while, I'd suggest giving them..

Degtyarev DP1928. No sure if it's exactly the same weapon as DP1927, which was used more widely by finns than Lahti-Saloranta LMG.

Mosin-Nagant M/1891. Preferably with altered finnish vertical front sights, instead of the round one, but the current model will do.

MP40. Think finns got few of these as german aid.

Satchel Charges most definitely! I've heard these are going to be included in .62.

Panzerfaust. Used widely during continuation war.

Of course I'd love to see completely new finnish equipment, but these would make nearly perfect replacements.

by the way -> http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=119628

MkH^ May 8th, 2004 10:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Artie
From I've read, the Finnish army was all but done, but the spring thaws came in March of 1940 and Stalin abandoned the war effort in Finland. By the end of the war, the Finns did give up 10% of their land to the USSR, giving the Soviets more of a buffer zone against future invasions. This helped them during the Continuation War, which lasted into 1944.

What can I say, the Soviets didn't win the war, but they gained some ground. Russia's never been known to be an offensive military country, anyways. :p

In winter warfare, the defender has a huge advantage.

Soviets did not conquer Karelia by the way. A contract was made to hand Karelia off to soviets after the war, which is the reason some people are still pissed off about it, since it wasn't even actually taken by force.

NoCoolOnesLeft May 8th, 2004 10:13 AM

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Well, the Suomi SMG is practicaly a PPSH, just take the model..mix it around a bit and use the same code/animations and bada bing! Suomi for the Fins.

M28/30, how hard can it be? just like all other rifles...no extra code required.

The Lhati LMG, just use the B.A.R animations, and give it a nice model/skin :)

Im sure if anyone can do i in a flash, FH dev team can :) but I suppose it'd come second or even third priority to the Italians and French, not forgetting the Poles.

Ohioan May 8th, 2004 10:48 AM

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Polish stuff should definately come first. I hope to see a Panzer I someday in a bf mod. Maybe a "Little Tiger" also..

BAM May 8th, 2004 10:48 AM

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well guys they wont do any new finnish stuff and if i remeber right i PMd hartmann and asked if the finns could get Mosin nagats and DP1928 and Panzerfasuts in Karelia to make it more Acurate ... and he said that they had changed it :) and Grease Monkey if it so easy liek you say you can do it for your self :)

D-Fens May 8th, 2004 11:07 AM

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Little Tiger? Is that the Panzer II L (Lynx)? Would be really cool, they were used even in 1944.

NoCoolOnesLeft May 8th, 2004 11:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BAM
well guys they wont do any new finnish stuff and if i remeber right i PMd hartmann and asked if the finns could get Mosin nagats and DP1928 and Panzerfasuts in Karelia to make it more Acurate ... and he said that they had changed it :) and Grease Monkey if it so easy liek you say you can do it for your self :)

haha...no way, asking me to model/skin/code is like telling the world to come to its senses. It aint gonna happen, I suck at that stuff..what I meant was it'd be easy for the FH dev team to do it because a) they are talented people b) they have experience and c) Im crap at making stuff :)

EDIT: found something on the Panzer II L:

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/luchs_1.jpg

'Panzerspahwagen II Ausf L Luchs - Sd.Kfz.123 (VK 1303).'

20mm main gun - 320 rounds of ammo.

BAM May 8th, 2004 12:49 PM

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löl that Tank looks damn cool was it any good or did it suck ?

Ohioan May 8th, 2004 01:21 PM

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Actually the Little Tiger was a retrofitted Panzer I Ausf. F, not a Panzer 2 Luchs. The Panzer 2 Luchs was used as a late-war reconissance vehicle and had a little more then twice the armor of a stock Panzer II (would aslo be cool to see that).

The "Little Tiger" was supposed to be used during the invasion of Crete but was instead sent to Leningrad. Eastern front.

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/pz1f_5.jpg

It's a heavily armored Panzer I tank. After 1938 they stopped seeing any use for Panzer I tanks so a bunch of them got retrofitted into nifty vehicles. Only 30 Little Tigers were made

http://www.ww2modelmaker.com/images/Pan143.JPG


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