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McGibs April 17th, 2004 11:50 AM

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how is 30 meters "unrealisticly shortranged?"

Exel April 17th, 2004 01:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by McGibs
how is 30 meters "unrealisticly shortranged?"

Because Pzfaust30 doesn't fly 30 meters unless you aim at the sky. Pzfaust100 does fly 30 meters, but it should fly 100 meters. And as many have said, make the weapons lose the damn arc.

Ohioan April 17th, 2004 01:41 PM

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Yeah, what he said. Panzerfaust 30 does NOT shoot 30 meters by any stretch of the imagination. Didn't we have a Panzerfaust 60 in .5 on Valirisk?

Kingrudolf April 17th, 2004 01:53 PM

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lol @ Geocities.. :lol:

BAM April 18th, 2004 01:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohioan
Yeah, what he said. Panzerfaust 30 does NOT shoot 30 meters by any stretch of the imagination. Didn't we have a Panzerfaust 60 in .5 on Valirisk?

no it was a PFZ 30 in Valirisk all other maps had the PFZ 100 ..

PanzerAce April 18th, 2004 02:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KillorLive
HOWEVER, they need to lose their damn arc!!! They did not do this, they went 30/60/100 meters and then died out, STRAIGHT AS AN ARROW.

wow, when was the last time you took a physics class, or even got out of your chair?? since when does gravity stop working for AT weapons, last i checked, gravity was still in affect, and unless some of the more outlandish claims about what german scientists did are true, they never managed to get rid of gravity. If you want realism then you need gravity, simple as that.
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sorry, but when people ignore basic rules of the world it just pisses me off. if you were offended by that then ohwell:uhoh:

General Taskeen April 18th, 2004 10:34 PM

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He isn't ignoring physics :rolleyes:.

The panzerfaust would travel in a straight line WHILE slowly descending... it was propelled and did not arc like a rifle grenade or whatever.

Exel April 19th, 2004 04:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PanzerAce
wow, when was the last time you took a physics class, or even got out of your chair?? since when does gravity stop working for AT weapons, last i checked, gravity was still in affect, and unless some of the more outlandish claims about what german scientists did are true, they never managed to get rid of gravity. If you want realism then you need gravity, simple as that.
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sorry, but when people ignore basic rules of the world it just pisses me off. if you were offended by that then ohwell:uhoh:

*sigh*

The 'faust was a rocket weapon - it flew so fast that gravity didn't have time to have a major effect on the flight arc, just like it doesn't effect tank rounds much either. The RPGs started to decent rapidly only after their propellant was consumed and the projectile lost its kinetic energy. The current flight charasteristics of the Pzfausts are simply obscene.

Elessar Telcontar April 19th, 2004 09:11 AM

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Quick search on internet... Panzerfaust 30 had a projectile velocity of 30 m/s not very fast after all.

Let's say a german soldier fires a panzerfaust 30 at 0 degrees from his shoulder, (1.5 m above ground) and that the ground is level.

Quick graphic calculator use, X=30T, Y=1.5-9.8T^2

Seems like the rocket will hit the ground after approx 0.4 seconds, 11 metres from the german.

I know that this isn't completely correct, but no matter what you say, gravity is pulling that projectile downwards with 9.8 m/s^2. Off course, if the rear end of the projectile is weighted (which I guess it was,) the rocket would also provide some lift, making the projectile losing it's altitude slower.

PanzerAce April 19th, 2004 09:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elessar Telcontar
Quick search on internet... Panzerfaust 30 had a projectile velocity of 30 m/s not very fast after all.

Let's say a german soldier fires a panzerfaust 30 at 0 degrees from his shoulder, (1.5 m above ground) and that the ground is level.

Quick graphic calculator use, X=30T, Y=1.5-9.8T^2

Seems like the rocket will hit the ground after approx 0.4 seconds, 11 metres from the german.

I know that this isn't completely correct, but no matter what you say, gravity is pulling that projectile downwards with 9.8 m/s^2. Off course, if the rear end of the projectile is weighted (which I guess it was,) the rocket would also provide some lift, making the projectile losing it's altitude slower.

thank you for pointing that out, maybe now all those people that have never taken a physics class will get the idea.:uhoh:


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