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Sputty March 22nd, 2004 07:40 PM
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Well, how did the Bazooka guy kill the tiger? The only way a Bazooka can in 4 shots is through the top hatch, which used to be a one hit kill anyway.

Anlushac11 March 22nd, 2004 08:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sputty
Well, how did the Bazooka guy kill the tiger? The only way a Bazooka can in 4 shots is through the top hatch, which used to be a one hit kill anyway.
The Tiger could very well have been damaged before it got across the bridge.

Anlushac11 March 22nd, 2004 09:19 PM
Re: The Tiger goes "Roar", but the people yawn.
 
I just tested the bazooka on Bulge and it takes 7 shots to the side to kill the Tiger so yes the Tiger would have had to have been damaged before the A/T guy killed it.

Oddly enough it takes 7 shots to kill the Tiger II also. Tiger II should have been harder to kill in the side than the Tiger

Ohioan March 22nd, 2004 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Driver
Ok, I dont know what it is, I cant put my finger on it, but I feel like something is very very wrong with the Tiger. The original Tiger that is, its turret dont move, its shots dont hurt, and its armor got soft.

Lets examine the evidence...

-Using the mouse, the turret turns less than the Stug's stationary gun. I mean cmon people, the damn turret was slow, but not this slow. There was also an extra gear that made it go fast! So please, lets fix the turret! Bring it back to the 5.x movement.

-Boom, swoosh, pop? And the winner is the Firefly, who took a direct hit (in the front), and didnt die! I'd expect this from a T34, but a Sherman? Whats gotten into the minds of these developers? The 88 has been weakened, that or the Firefly is now Godlike. Something needs to be fixed. Fast.

-The tank commander says "Oh nos!! Me Armor is no armor!". This when the Firefly will destroy your tiger with two frontal shots. FRONTAL!!! NO TILT! Someone explain the physics behind this genious idea.

So theres your three clues as to what has been done to the Tiger. My kitty just doesnt roar these days like it used to. Sure its great on the defence, if you park your ass and wait, but theres something that just bothers me about a Firefly being able to knock me out. Most of the time I dont see those damn things because I cant turn my turret, and when I locate them my tank is usually on fire.

ANOTHER MOST DISCUSTINGLY ANNOYING THING!

Suicide planes. What the ____ people! I swear to god, If the Tiger was a air magnet in real life, the Allies wouldnt have any planes to fight in europe. All I get these days is suicides. Tiger or TigerB, your automatically a plane magnet. There should be a restriction to this bull. Something like tieing a person up to an electric chair, so that when he decides to commit suicide, he can feel the pain in real life.

Swear to God, .6 was supposed to fix this, I feel they made it worse. Now the allies have two targets, they used to have one. These days, the Tigers are going extinct. Someone should reduce crash damage to a maximum of 25% of health, this way if the tigers damaged, it can be a finishing move, but if the person in the plane is just trying to suicide for the hell of it, he can take the damage himself.

Now a little off the topic. Here is a list of the goodies that should get included sometime in the neer future.

-Panzer3 with a 50mm gun.
-Hetzer (Jagd38t)
-JagdPanther
-Hummel
-PzKpfw 38(t)
-KV1
It is kinda funny. They took parachutes out, so now people would much RATHER slam the plane into a ground target if they get in without a pilot kit, it's better then trying to land it and you get a kill. And the kits aren't always readily availible...

Driver March 23rd, 2004 05:26 AM
Re: The Tiger goes "Roar", but the people yawn.
 
Nah, theres always been a Kamikaze problem when it comes to anything called "TigeR". Funny thing is, if one of those plances did kamakaze a Tiger, I highly dubt it would do that much damage, unless they used a C47 or something of a larger size than a fighter.

Sputty March 23rd, 2004 06:33 AM
Re: The Tiger goes "Roar", but the people yawn.
 
It would possibly flip the tiger. And since all the explosives inside the plane(fuel) it would do a good amount of damage

Cochise March 23rd, 2004 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Anlushac11
Odd that I went on Aberdeen and took a Tiger over to the Brit base and sat and did target practice on teh Fireflies and Shermans. Only way I could get 1 shot 1 kill was to aim for the differential cover. That is realistic as the Sherman had a flaw in the casting there that allowed penetrations easier. The 3 piece bolted section was just plain weak.
Man, a Tiger should get a penetration anywhere on a Sherman and it is TOTAL bullshit that it doesn't unless it is at an extremely oblique angle. They have NERFED the Tiger I and have basically ruined it. It is bullshit.

Anlushac11 March 23rd, 2004 08:47 AM
Re: The Tiger goes "Roar", but the people yawn.
 
I seem to remember one of the FH staff saying that they did it to improve gameplay since the US doesnt have a good tank yet.

Therefore GIVE US THE M4A3E2 "JUMBO" WITH 76MM GUN! :) That could be the US heavy til the M26 entered service.

Very heavily armored version of the M4A3 Sherman that weighed 42 tons, almost as much as the M26 Pershing heavy's weight of 46 tons.

According to this site: http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m4sherman.html#JUMBO
The Jumbo had a relative armor thickness of 141mm front hull, a new one piece extra thick differential cover, 178mm gun manlet, 150mm turret side and rear, and 76mm upper hull sides. Only problem was road speed was reduced from 46 KPH to 36 KPH

If FH is going to redo the Sherman's the "Jumbo" should be first followed by the M4A1.

axkgkadragon March 23rd, 2004 09:35 AM
Re: The Tiger goes "Roar", but the people yawn.
 
If i rmember right the shermans armor was nothing, The tiger could penetrate from any angle at a range max of 1000m i think while the shermans gun could penetrade the frontal armor of a tiger at ANY range (including point blank)

Cochise March 23rd, 2004 10:07 AM
Re: The Tiger goes "Roar", but the people yawn.
 
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Originally Posted by Anlushac11
I seem to remember one of the FH staff saying that they did it to improve gameplay since the US doesnt have a good tank yet.
Yep that sounds about right and whoever said that is a total idiot. The damn thing is not in every map and nerfing A SINGLE TANK which is not even in every map because the Allies do not have good armor is about the most idiotic assbackwards idea and this person probably has DC and Dice stamped on their foreheads. Gaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh

okay im done now.


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