The Tiger goes "Roar", but the people yawn.

[RandomChurch]

I think Driver does a really poor job of presenting what he sees as a problem. To me he sounds like a baby crying.... Anyways, the Tiger is fine how it is. It's always been a good idea to turn the whole body instead of the turret, even in .5. Fact is, you just can't use the damn thing properly. If you suck in it, that's your own fault. I refuse to believe it's inherrent problems in the system when I can hop in the tiger and go 15-0 or so consistently. Learn to use the tank properly before you go crying about how it sucks now.

And what the hell are you talking about they said they fixed people kamikazing? I never ever remember them mentioning that was a priority for them to fix.

[Anlushac11]

Originally Posted by VioLAtoR[xL]

Claiming the tiger is a fairly easy kill is bs. Try getting to any of the flags in Valirisk while a Tiger is on the hill overlooking the road coming from Russian main.

1) Grab a T-34/85. Learn to shoot on the move

1a)T-34's are fairly fast(although it seems they dropped the speed by a fair bit). Speed is life. Minimize your turns since you slow down when turning.

2) Terrain and trees are your friend. Use them for cover.

2a) The river crossing is your friend. Use it. Germans get real testy when you get in their rear area and kill anything approaching the bridge to reinforce their buddies. And If you catch the Tiger moving up you can ambush it in the side.

3) Two shots into Tigers side hull and its dead. 4 or 5 shots in rear and its dead, but most Tiger drivers are not willing to wait after the first 2.

I have been the T-34 trying to get out of the Russian base and I have been the Tiger on the hill. When the Russians get pushed back tot eh point they cant get out of their base you have alot more to worry about than a lone Tiger on the hill.

[VioLAtoR[xL]]

I certainly don't need a lesson in tank tactics, thank you!
You cant hit a Tiger's turret sticking over the top of a hill at 700-800 meters on the move, altough he can hit you pretty easily.
There was a tank ace ( SLO lundenberg or something, the guy hits 99% of his shots ) with an engineer on that hill, and you know as well as I do the only way to get passed that is using the riverbank, or having a very lucky break.

[Anlushac11]

My point was to use speed and terrain cover to get close enough to kill him. The old Tiger was harder to kill. It used to take me 4 or 5 shots to kill a Tiger in the side.

The new Tiger only takes two shots in the side. How you get into that position to kill a Tiger is your problem.

I always try to get to the Tigers sides and not be one of the stupid fucks that comes straight at him or stops in the open and tries to engage the Tiger with a long range gunnery duel.

[VioLAtoR[xL]]

Yes, and my point is the Tiger is nothing near to an easy kill in the right hands.

[Anlushac11]

Originally Posted by VioLAtoR[xL]

Yes, and my point is the Tiger is nothing near to an easy kill in the right hands.

So fucking what?

So now you have to start laying down conditions? "Its gotta be on this map in this location and it has to be an expert Tiger Ace"

How often does a Tiger Ace get the Tiger on a Public server? every time? every couple of times?

[VioLAtoR[xL]]

Someone needs to take a deep breath.

[BR1Gangsta]

Analushac why u gotta be a dick and argue with everyone. just accept that fact that you are wrong. the tiger is hard to kill. the end.

[the_move]

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

At the moment the only AAA the Germans have is the Ostwind and the 8 ton 1/2 track with the quad 20mm in the back.

The Ostwind has a single 37mm flak 37 even in game.

The wirbel wind has the quad 20mm flak 38, but it is not in FH.

[Anlushac11]

Originally Posted by BR1Gangsta

Analushac why u gotta be a dick and argue with everyone. just accept that fact that you are wrong. the tiger is hard to kill. the end.

Ahhh its my favorite gangsta wanna be. Come to dazzle us once again with your dazzling repartee?

Look back at my past posts and you will see that when I have been wrong I have admitted it and stated as such. But I am not usually wrong.

I bother to research and read up on the subject Im arguing about. You on the other hand have done nothing but come on here running your mouth like you are someone important and you arent.

I only argue or reply when I see erroneous information or if someone asks a question and it has not been answered correctly yet. If someone has answered the question correctly I sometimes comment on it or add to the information. What have you contributed?

My original point: The original FH Tiger had a good gun and good armor as it should have. But certain weapons that should have killed a Tiger with one hit to the side did hardly any damage to it. The US M1A1 76mm gun, the US 90mm M3, the Brit 17lbr., and the Russian D-5 85mm gun all were way underpowered. The FH team changed the guns in 0.6 to where they kill in 2 shots. But while the Tiger's 88mm L/56 is still sttrong it feels like it has been weakened. I understand that this was done in the interest of gameplay. I dont agree with it but I understand it.

My point 2: On a Public server the average Tiger driver is not a Tiger ace. He is a player who wants to grab the Tiger because it is the only tank most of them know by name and they know its reputation. They are usually easy to kill. Occasionally you get the guy who knows how to use it and that guy you have to be extra careful with. On publics Tiger Aces are the exception not the norm. I have killed more Tigers in FH 0.6 than I did in 0.5 because the Tiger is much easier to kill.

The other day on Bulge I saw a US A/T guy take out a Tiger that had crossed the North Bridge with nothing more than a bazooka. Took a few shots but he did it. No way in hell would a bazooka kill a Tiger in 0.5 unless you brought friends with bazooka's.

Violator and I are in disagreement but I respect his right to disagree and have listened to his points. Some I can see where he is coming from and some I dont agree with.

But Little gangster boy what have you contributed to the conversation other than coming in and acting all bad and important? Not a damm thing.


@The Move: The Wirbelwind is the German AAA tank I have requested be put in game. On some of the maps there was a version of the 8 ton 1/2 track like the version used to tow the 88 except the AAA version had the quad 20mm in back. I know it used to be in El Alamein but not sure which maps have it now.