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tHe bUm -=TSi=- February 12th, 2004 03:08 PM

FH move with new BF?
 
BF Vietnam is a little over a month away and I feel the FH makers must make a decision, continue onto the new BF and remake with the new game engine... or stay with what they have in BF 1942 and continue it.

My personal opinion is that FH should move to BF Vietnam after .6. Why do I feel this way?

I feel this way because I think the BF Vietnam engine will better support FH in every possible way. In addition in BF Vietnam there will be greater possiblities for pushing the engine for more, or not and having the possibility of everyone who can play BF Vietnam to play FH, allowing much more access to the mod.

I suggest we move on to BF Vietnam with the mod, even if we must redo most of it, FH will be ready again in time for us to need something new from BF Vietnam (once the normal Vietnam gets boring).

Share your opinion on the subject and whether you support FH moving on or staying.

McGibs February 12th, 2004 03:13 PM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
I'd rather they stay on BF1942.

HeLmUt_KlAmKe February 12th, 2004 03:21 PM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
I think that BF:V will be a dud...

javierlopez February 12th, 2004 03:39 PM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McGibs
I'd rather they stay on BF1942.

:agreed:

Englishboy February 12th, 2004 03:56 PM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
why go through another year full of work with remodeling and coding, its fine of bf and should stay on bf

tHe bUm -=TSi=- February 12th, 2004 04:03 PM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Englishboy
why go through another year full of work with remodeling and coding, its fine of bf and should stay on bf

The DC crew is remaking their mod for BF Vietnam to push the limits of their mod and extend the life of it.

I know that me and probably quite a few others will leave FH if it doesn't move on to the new technology and get revamped, also I don't think they'll have to redo that much. The new BF system is just a modified version of the older BF system, likely the models from 1942's FH will still work in Vietnam's FH. It likely won't take a year to get everything up and going, maybe a month if almost everything from FH in BF 1942 works properly in terms of models and stuff, then they just have to make the adjustments they did for FH stuff again.

Great on BF, but lets face it BF 1942 is dying technology and will probably be dead in less than a year, however BF Vietnam will be around for well over a year I'm sure. DC is farther along (though worse and less stuff) and they're moving onto BF Vietnam, why not FH? I love FH and it's by far my favorite mod, but I'm afraid I probably won't like playing the outdated technology.

Can we get some Dev team guys in here to tell us your plans with FH?

striderx2048 February 12th, 2004 04:21 PM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
they are not moving. bfv will dud out like the xpacks

ManiK February 12th, 2004 04:26 PM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
ugh :rolleyes: dont get me started on BF:V
I'm so fucking pissed that DICE would leave BF1942 in its current state, I mean it's not even fucking finnished, they've got friggin placeholders for weapons, shitty ass tanks, and crappy mod support. Personally I will be torn whether or not to get It because it could be a great game, or it could be Crap: Redux

However, if the FH team is comfortable with FH how it is at whatever stage, at the time when and if they desice to move to BF:V then I support it.

Anlushac11 February 12th, 2004 05:07 PM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
Wasnt this quetion asked last month and wasnt the answer that when BF: Vietnam is released FH will look at it and see what it has to offer, whether all the models can be converted over and such. If there is enough advances and improvement and it wont require alot of new work then they would consider it, but if it requires new code and new models then no.

Sputty February 13th, 2004 03:29 AM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
I really think that BF:V will have an easy way to convert BF1942 mods to it because they see how much money mods made them, how could they not?

striderx2048 February 13th, 2004 04:16 AM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
because EA is running the show.

Mandingo 18'' February 13th, 2004 04:36 AM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
Well, Half-Life is ancient technology and it still has over 100,000 players online almost six years after its release. I don't believe BF1942 will die anytime soon.

PanzerAce February 13th, 2004 08:07 AM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeLmUt_KlAmKe
I think that BF:V will be a dud...


agreed, if you wanted to play a vietnam game, just get EoD, but im suprised that EA didnt try and buy them to use the stuff they already had done...

VioLAtoR[xL] February 13th, 2004 02:17 PM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
Quote:

I know that me and probably quite a few others will leave FH if it doesn't move on to the new technology and get revamped
I know that me and probably quite a few others will leave FH if it means buying a new game and waiting up to a year to everything is converted/remodeled. And filling up the time with Vietnam itself isn't going to get my dopamine flowing, I am a ww2 fanatic.

BAM February 14th, 2004 01:37 AM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
maybee there will be an SDK out after BF V who knows (i menma for Bf42)

Jacobski February 14th, 2004 10:03 AM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
I say stay, dont go over to bf:V it doesnt support some campaigns like eastern front and desert front and it would suck if we just got pacific.

BAM February 14th, 2004 11:22 AM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacobski
I say stay, dont go over to bf:V it doesnt support some campaigns like eastern front and desert front and it would suck if we just got pacific.

what are you talking about ?? not support campaings like africa ??

tHe bUm -=TSi=- February 14th, 2004 11:30 AM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VioLAtoR[xL]
I know that me and probably quite a few others will leave FH if it means buying a new game and waiting up to a year to everything is converted/remodeled. And filling up the time with Vietnam itself isn't going to get my dopamine flowing, I am a ww2 fanatic.

Well I support the post mention the last time someone had this topic they would see what new BFV has and whether the old stuff is supported.

I'm fairly sure everything in BF 1942 mods should work in BFV, considering that they're running a modified version of the exact same engine. The modified version can just support a lot more things, including a lot more things (possibly much bigger maps) on the map at once like forest. It would be great to have some forest maps, could be unique having the perfect rows of planted trees (that's what Europeans do after logging a forest, replanted in perfect rows) and having tanks a large disadvantage to not be able to go inside. It's likely most of the FH stuff will work, and if most or all works FH will be out in a short period of time. Also, with the likely higher system requirements then I'm willing to bet that everyone will be able to play FH, rather than many people having lag from their computer.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacobski
I say stay, dont go over to bf:V it doesnt support some campaigns like eastern front and desert front and it would suck if we just got pacific.

Ummm...

They're likely to add those fronts if they release FH for BFV.

They'll just have to redo some graphics. But, it actually looks like the included map editor thing for BFV has everything from BF 1942 and more, meaning it's likely that the FH team could grab all the texture and possibly even the old building files from that and remake the stuff. Otherwise, they might be able to take the old models from BF 1942 for Europe and Africa, with EA's consent. And, the final option would probably be to remake the models and textures for Europe and Africa, which would be a plus cause they're likely to do a much better job than EA ever did with them :D. Most mods for BF 1942 are better than the actual game, in multiple ways.

dRaStiQ February 14th, 2004 11:34 AM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
Yup what are you talking about, all different fronts are is new textures/static objects.

Also I think converting to BF:nam will be very easy. heres EAs latest update:

Quote:

Mod News
Lot's of questions are being asked about the differences between Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield Vietnam as far as modders are concerned. We've taken a moment to put together a small FAQ to answer the major questions. More detailed information will follow....

Q: Has the CON file format changed?
A: The addition of shader manipulation abilities in the .rs files is probably one of the biggest changes. Other than that, some additional lines were added for new functionality, like airlifiting and the new helicopter.

{edit} sorry for posting basically the same as the post above, posted at the same time

Q: What are some of the new things modders will be able to use in BFV?
A: Two of the most exciting visual additions is normal mapping on objects and new under/overgrowth system. Neither of these is required in BFV...but adding them will increase the visual impact of your mods.

Q: What is this new undergrowth and overgrowth system?
A: Essentially, it's just two new material maps you add to populate your map with objects. It's used for both outdoors for trees and bushes and indoors with crates, chairs, etc.

Q: Will DICE and EA be releasing mod tools for Battlefield Vietnam?
A: Yes, BFV will ship in the box with Battlecraft Vietnam, an updated map editor, and an updated Mod Development Toolkit.
If Im not mistaken that means that copying code is just a matter of copy and pasting and we always knew that vehicles/skins e.t.c. would be easily transferable so it seems like a mod could be ported within a matter of weeks, after that the mod team could get to work utilising all the new effects e.t.c. of the vietnam engine.

VioLAtoR[xL] February 14th, 2004 12:57 PM

Re: FH move with new BF?
 
A matter of weeks sounds more interesting, but I still doubt all the new stuff in FH, wich will be quite a lot in 0.6, including maps, are converted that fast/easy. But I'm a programming/modeling nitwit, I hate even the simplest of map editors, so maybe it will be a good idea.


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