4352605

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

May 21st, 2008 07:52 PM

The world is dying...*bongos* The world is dying... *bongos* The world is dead. *bongos*

4352646

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

May 21st, 2008 08:50 PM

You wallet stolen...

I think that's one of the most fun and naive beloved argument of you, cons of World United.

Taxes are not bad, fellows, they keep our societies running, if the governmens are fair and talented your money gets stuff and hapiness for the hungry masses. But I will say something you will not like, It's not your wallet exactly, you get money with your hard work because there is stuff built around: industries, roads, hospitals, harbors, etc, etc, etc.

If you don't like it take your wife by the hair and go to live in a cave dressed with the skin of a bear. You want to be in the mass and playing the bell at the same time, and that's not possible.

4352664

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

May 21st, 2008 09:22 PM

That 'if' is so large we'd need a 'Power of Ten' style documentary to grasp it.

4352948

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

May 22nd, 2008 04:48 AM

I do agree with you to a point. Society needs taxes. We have to have roads, services, defense, an APPROPRIATE safety net for the downtrodden, etc.

The problem is that politicians have realized that their power comes through the growth of governmental spending. And some have realized that taxation is the best way to control the masses.

Personally, I would welcome a country where the goal of every single elected official is to see that government does NOT GROW on their watch. The US has proven that governmental tax receipts actually increase as tax rates are decreased - the problem arises when government then spends that revenue and continually wants more.

This is my primary beef with Bush. He's has grown government more than any President in US history.

4353123

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

May 22nd, 2008 07:38 AM

I'm not against government spending, I'm just in favor of smart government spending.

Taxes are necessary, yes, but they should be as little as possible.

Remember a few years ago, in the 2000 election, when all the talk was about how to spend the budget surplus? Guys, when a government has a surplus, that means taxes are too high and it's time to lower them. Governments don't exist to make a profit...

4353142

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

May 22nd, 2008 07:55 AM

As far as Obama's experience, stands, vagueness I heard one politcocom put it this way - purposeful measured vagueness that can be molded to suit individual needs.

Why do you think he has so many wealthy supporters, particularly George Sorcerous?

I guess it gives a new meaning to investing in America....

As far as taxes/spending let's do a balanced budget designed to pay off the national debt with no new taxes and a meaningful look at current spending levels.

One way to do this is to cut off all foreign support other than current commitments with Allies. In this I am very serious.

4353940

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

May 22nd, 2008 06:38 PM

Here's something else to worry about with Barack Obama...

Imagine the outcry if McCain had a neo-Nazi band opening for his campaign rallies. And yet it's nothing special for Obama to have a band open for him which espouses Soviet communism, an ideology which killed as many if not more people than Nazism.

4353946

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

May 22nd, 2008 06:40 PM

Becuase Communism is cool among you damned kids nowadays

4353952

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

May 22nd, 2008 06:42 PM

Go read about them, they're name is taken from 1800's Russian stuff. It's a big leap from the Soviet Union national anthem to supporting the killing of civilians by Soviet Communism. I like the sound of the Italian National Anthem, but I don't support wine,soccer,cheese, or water as streets.

4353981

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

May 22nd, 2008 07:18 PM

Didn't you just make a thread about Manchester United?