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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Mr. Pedantic
June 5th, 2008 01:06 PM
Nah, now I'd most likely think of McCain.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Moose12
June 5th, 2008 01:08 PM
Well once Obama is in office though, itll be Clinton that kills him.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
stylie
June 5th, 2008 03:36 PM
Ive been thinking about HRC as vp... here is why, It is conceivable that McCain could actually try to get her, he's pretty left for a righty. You know that would probably be a lock for that ticket, actually maybe a lock for either ticket. Obama, thinking of this possibility might go for her first...

Please someone tell me this nightmare scenario could not ever be a possibility... Im beggin ya.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
jumjum
June 5th, 2008 04:34 PM
If Obama puts HRC in his veep slot, it merely proves he's a political neophyte. Having the Clintons (and of course you get 2-for-1 whether you want it or not) in your administration guarantees unprecedented internecine war. The Clintons will be undermining Obama and leaking like a sieve. There will actually be an administration-within-an-administration.

I really don't expect him to seriously offer or her to accept. But there is a certain ritual and protocol to these things, and she may feel that courtesy demands that an offer be made, if only for appearance sake.

It's sort of like you being a dinner guest and eating and drinking like a pig. And your hostess says to you, "Oh, how gratifying it is to see such a hearty appetite. You see it so seldom these days. I'm so sorry I didn't prepare better. Please allow me to grill you another four or five filet mignon. And while you're waiting, please honor us by sampling this heirloom bottle of small-pot single-malt scotch we were saving for something silly like our 50th wedding anniversary. It's so nice to see a man who's not afraid to drink hard these days." You know she doesn't mean it, and she hates your guts for being a drunken pig, so you politely decline.

So although Obama may make a very quiet pro forma non-offer offer, he'll only do it if he's assured she'll turn any such opportunity down. Besides, why would she want to give up a seat as one of the most powerful members of the Senate to be a VP?
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
jumjum
June 5th, 2008 10:26 PM
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Not to interrupt, but there's a huge pre-scandal brewing, presumably about Michelle Obama's participation on some radical panel and some supposedly shocking comments she made. Look for a video tape to emerge within 24 hours: Doug Ross @ Journal

Assuming there is some truth to the rumor, the way for the Obama camp to play it is to float rumors hyping the hell out of it, so that when it comes out, viewers will think, "That's no big deal." They may already be doing that, since speculation is that it's so terrible Obama will be crippled; he can't recover; he'll drop out within a week, etc. Pretty strong stuff....
Forgive me. Consecutive posts and a self-quote - ugh, that's bad. But I've been waiting to see if this video thing will out, but it doesn't seem to be happening. Except today Obama said there is no vid of Michelle ranting about "whitey". Ben Smith's Blog: Obama denies a rumor and questions the question - Politico.com

Also, I've since read that the source of all the Michelle-on-shocking-video rumors appears to be one Larry Johnson, who runs a rabidly pro-Hillary web page. Well, well. Here's his page with the story: Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan Take On Whitey : NO QUARTER

Here's a good analysis that concludes, whether or not there's a vid with nasty racist remarks by Michelle is unclear - none has shown up so far. But the guy who started this thing, Larry Johnson, can't keep his story straight. Reason Magazine - Hit & Run > Everything's Gonna Be All White

To make it "more gooder", this is apparently the same Larry Johnson who is a former CIA spook and from 1989-93 was the deputy director of the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism. He is (in)famous for an analysis he released July 10, 2001, in which he mocked the average American's fears of terrorist attack by extremist Islamic groups. He went on to say America did not face a significant threat of terrorist attack, and that there were more important security concerns. (Not Exactly a) Whopper of the Week: Larry C. Johnson - Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine

Of course, within 90 days he was proved to be spectacularly wrong.

Supposedly as he was packing up after having been fired from the State Department for his less-than-excellent prognostication, he was inundated by such job offers as consultant to "Jamaican Psychic" Miss Cleo; fortune-cookie writer; horse-racing tip-sheet editor and exit-pollster. At last report he was seriously considering an offer to be a TV Weatherman.

Besides, here's Larry Johnson's picture:



WTF? A guy with a haircut like this; is he a Doofus? Dickless? A Disaster Waiting To Happen?

Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
JohnWalker
June 5th, 2008 11:23 PM
America can't trust man who can't commit himself to a truely mind blowing hair cut.

Anton Chigurh for President. Life, Liberty and pneumatic bolt gun justice for all. Friendo.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Moose12
June 6th, 2008 12:21 AM
I frickin called it JumJum, but I'm glad you followed it up and continued the story. I told you it would prove to be false . I'm smarter then I look.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Flyboy1942
June 6th, 2008 12:35 AM
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Read Michael Yon's new book Moment of Truth in Iraq.

I just started but this is exactly what Gen Petraeus (petra Greek rock) has implimented in the surge.

Yon has some scathing criticisms about the USA early prosecution of the war (heavy handed, heavy hitting) but it reporting of a genuine change based on your comments Flyboy.

I just recently read about the stuff in my post actually happening in Iraq, and was attempting some sort of convoluted sarcastic devils advocate post, but maybe I was a bit too tired

That book sounds good though, and with summer starting I actually have time to read
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
stylie
June 6th, 2008 06:07 AM
Dudes Im bumming... the whole whitey thing would have been a spectacular fireworks show, as juicy as this thread was, earlier this week!!! But if Im reading this correctly, this Larry douchebag hasnt seen the tape, he's hearing about it, correct? It still may be true, I think Michelle Obama has the potential of bringing down Barack anyway, we have heard her lean this way before. I cant wait for something like this to happen, honestly, I dont even care who. McCain even, whatever... something to spice this whole thing up.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Rafterman
June 6th, 2008 06:39 AM
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Dudes Im bumming... the whole whitey thing would have been a spectacular fireworks show, as juicy as this thread was, earlier this week!!! But if Im reading this correctly, this Larry douchebag hasnt seen the tape, he's hearing about it, correct? It still may be true, I think Michelle Obama has the potential of bringing down Barack anyway, we have heard her lean this way before. I cant wait for something like this to happen, honestly, I dont even care who. McCain even, whatever... something to spice this whole thing up.
Well as we all know, problems always seem to arise in politics AFTER politicians make decisive statements - Read my Lips, no new taxes - I did not have sex with that woman, Mission Accomplished, etc.

So, odds of something like this tape existing and actually showing up - potentially pretty good.
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