there is nothing wrong with supporting israel, as long as he doesnt turn a blind eye to whats going on , Obama stated before that the palistinians are the ones who suffer the most.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Duckee
June 4th, 2008 06:22 PM
Gen'l Knight and Moose were closer than they thought..
Going after that thar Jewish US vote after wetted finger was stuck in the air.....
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Originally Posted by Stefan F
there is nothing wrong with supporting israel, as long as he doesnt turn a blind eye to whats going on , Obama stated before that the palistinians are the ones who suffer the most.
Should he get in, if he can bring peace more power to him.
The US should support its good allies...
Lobo - we still love ya amigo
Just no whips please...
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Lobo
June 4th, 2008 07:29 PM
Oh yeah, it's way better a man stumbling every day against the same stone (=fail). All the philosophers and saincts of History told that twisting with the wind is the act of a wise man.
No, now, seriously, we had a refreshing off topic moment with our freaky discussion about indians, but the rest of the thread is you, peeps, trying to convince us that Obama is some kind of flower power retard, that will fall to the floor crying and calling his mamma the first time a secretary comes to his room in the White House to inform him that a Kentucky tourist was beaten up by a tug at Timbouctou.
Exactly why?, first, the man will have an easy time being way better than Bush...er...I admit that doesn't need special skills but well, whatever.
But imo he is what America needs, you don't need another republican Grouchy Smurf, every day I hate this, I hate that, etc. You need some fresh blood, a man who changes the actual nasty vision of your country in the rest of the world. Dialogue is not appeasement, it's the first tactic of wise men, if it doesn't work there is always time for action.
Your hated Bill Clinton didn't abandoned Israel but he had the balls to sit down those obstinate mumbling fans of backstabbing each others (israelits and palestinians) at a table and forced them to speak. And he got a home run at Yugoslavia, unlike your beloved Bush.
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Moose12
June 4th, 2008 07:38 PM
I actually don't think she will either knight. In the end I can't see it happening.
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Gen'l Knight
June 4th, 2008 08:02 PM
Obama is just so - untested and a very real unknown.
His association with that church in Chicago for so long just doesn't turn me on either. While perhaps not wholly indicative, it suggests that Barak's loyalties are not with the USA as much as the black movement.
That fact that he has disassociated himself from the church and the manner in which it was done is loopy as well.
Somebody with a different face - yes.
A proven administrator of either miltary, business or government - yes. Barak can not claim this.
There is a new govenor in Louisiana named Bobby Jindl that will make his mark someday on the US scene. He is of (the country of India) heritage and Reagan conservative-like.
A better look for the Dems would be someone like my state's senator Evan Bayh.
I agree with you Lobo. I am not a McCain fan and not anything to do with Bush. McCain has his own set of creepy merits.
Don't know why I am wasting FH2 playing time here so.....
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
[WDW]Megaraptor
June 4th, 2008 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobo
Your hated Bill Clinton didn't abandoned Israel but he had the balls to sit down those obstinate mumbling fans of backstabbing each others (israelits and palestinians) at a table and forced them to speak. And he got a home run at Yugoslavia, unlike your beloved Bush.
Bill Clinton was extremely pro-Israel, more so than Bush. But he let thousands of people get killed in Bosnia for 3 years before finally intervening. Not exactly a home run. Then he did the right thing in Kosovo, I'll give him that. Too bad for Rwanda and Bosnia that he didn't learn sooner.
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