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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Gen'l Knight
June 3rd, 2008 02:18 PM
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On a sidenote: This is were the mischief peaked. This was when old europe and the states clashed. The U.S. intelligence came up with these vague assumptions that tended to increase in weight the longer others were not convinced. And the british intelligence was fed with false information by the states. (The british being involved is a different story and comes to light if you look at the greater scale of british policy during the past centuries, being indepted to the States.)


In January 2003, United Nations weapons inspectors reported that they had found no indication that Iraq possessed nuclear weapons or an active program. Some former UNSCOM inspectors disagree about whether the United States could know for certain whether or not Iraq had renewed production of weapons of mass destruction. Robert Gallucci said, "If Iraq had [uranium or plutonium], a fair assessment would be they could fabricate a nuclear weapon, and there's no reason for us to assume we'd find out if they had." Similarly, former inspector Jonathan Tucker said, "Nobody really knows what Iraq has. You really can't tell from a satellite image what's going on inside a factory."

See, so the positions and conclusions of the U.N. were similar to german or french intelligence reports.

And on the basis of that, german foreign minister adressed Mr. Rumsfeld: "Excuse me, I am not convinced".

That is quiet contrary to your statement.
Point taken and you are saying this about NUCLEAR weapons correct?

The funny thing about this is a most Liberal guy and Bush-hater at work gave me a book written by the father of the Iraqui boy that his daughter knew.

The title of it? Saddam's Bombmaker, recently published by Khidhir Hamza.

This is some discussion how true this is but talk about a tell all book!

As well as writing about Sadaam pursuit of all sorts of weaponry, it also detailed the author's involvement in the purchase of the nuclear reactor by Iraq in the 1980s.

As far as France and Germany, I do not wish to rehearse again the possbile economic ties that may have precluded their measured responses on this question.

Also, I put as much weight on the UN as some of you do on President Bush.
shed by Khidhir Hamza
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Lobo
June 3rd, 2008 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gen'l Knight View Post
As far as WMDs - they still exist somewhere in the Arab world IMHO.
Speaking with you I feel like Galileo Galilei in front of the priests of the Inquisition Tribunal...the goddamned Earth spins around the Sun, cojones!
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Admiral Donutz
June 3rd, 2008 02:45 PM
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As far as WMDs - they still exist somewhere in the Arab world IMHO.
I guess only two nations ( A and I) may have them ? We all know that the middle east, "commie" countries and such are all evil and plotting to destroy us.

PS: (to stay ontopic) I'm pretty tired of Barrack being refered to as "the first black president", a "halfblood" would be a more approperiate term. Not that it doesn't matter what sex,race, religion, sexual preferance or whatever else you cna think of really matters. It's about skills, not a silly supervisiual thing. Meh.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
stylie
June 3rd, 2008 04:32 PM
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I didn't see a lot of professionnalism from american journalist during the anti-french campaign.
Seth, what was the "anti-french campaign" I missed it. I would agree though, the anti-french sentiment of my country is quite puzzling. I dont get it. If it werent for the help of the French we might be speaking english now! Oh wait! But you know what I mean!

But how quickly people forget. It cant be all that bad over there?!?

Dukat... you only have 47 posts?!? Thats crazy! You must say alot with very little!

Donutz... yes it is amazing... Whats more amazing is that people are going to vote for/against B O for that very reason. I swear I throw my hands up!!!
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Moose12
June 3rd, 2008 04:53 PM
Speaking of Obama, he's speaking here tonight.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Gen'l Knight
June 3rd, 2008 05:04 PM
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I guess only two nations ( A and I) may have them ? We all know that the middle east, "commie" countries and such are all evil and plotting to destroy us.

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Funny.

I'm still not clear why stories such as these haven't got more play - oh wait, the unbiased media I keep forgetting...well actually CNN and the NY Times are involved below so...

Oh yes the UN has spoken as well...my my my....

FOXNews.com - Report: Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq - U.S. Senate

CNN.com - Powell on WMD existence: 'This game is still unfolding' - Jan. 8, 2004

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/23/us...rtner=homepage
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Gen'l Knight
June 3rd, 2008 05:08 PM
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Speaking with you I feel like Galileo Galilei in front of the priests of the Inquisition Tribunal...the goddamned Earth spins around the Sun, cojones!
Wait till I demand my pound of flesh....
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
JohnWalker
June 3rd, 2008 05:16 PM
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rly

Care to enlight me about your background about the issue?, it's just to know if you are an intellectual authority about the subject, you know?, lately everybody thinks that knows about everything, just with the reading of some fancy blogs.

The immortal Robert Capa said a journalist must always take side, and God knows he did, near the victims, against evilness. Disagree?

The last time the media had an agenda we killed a bunch of your countrymen over a boiler explosion.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Lobo
June 3rd, 2008 05:21 PM
Yes, but it was 110 years ago, we forgive you!
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
JohnWalker
June 3rd, 2008 05:30 PM
But you kinda see why I'm against the media, who's job is to report neutral facts, having an agenda?
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