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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

June 3rd, 2008 12:09 PM

I'm gonna go ahead and call that the Michelle Obama tape isn't much. If it was it would already be out.

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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

June 3rd, 2008 12:33 PM

I will ignore the byte about "you europeans hate us poor America", it's getting old, I think by now is pretty clear some of the europeans here think Bush is a walking cluster fuck but just that, we have nothing against America, in fact some of us love the concept America with just some colorful details that we will never understand but those don't ruin the overall feeling.

To the issue...

Why do you think the mass media can't have ideology?, journalists are simply like you, they have polithical ideas in the positive meaning of the term: proposals to improve world and life of people. Obviously a good journalist must distinguish clearly opinion and information and don't try to sell us his ideas without proofs, and yeah, not all journalists have those high principles...but in both sides of the fence, hey, don't think otherwise.

But you affirm ALL mass media that doesn't sing your song is leftie and is blatantly lieing, are you kidding or you just live at Lollipop Str.?

The WMD's big bluff is not a matter of opinion, it's a fact supported with historical proofs and only a blind fanboy can say otherwise. About New Orleans you must be kidding again, so the president of USA has nothing to do in the management of a disaster that was a shame for a civilizated country?, now, seriously, what the hell must do a President of USA?, go to parades and wave the hand smiling?

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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

June 3rd, 2008 12:51 PM

Oh Jay-sus, seriously?

4368461

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

June 3rd, 2008 12:51 PM

Well yes and no...Bush is ultimately responsible for the federal government's response, but he is definitely NOT responsible for, say, most of the New Orleans Police Department running away from the job and leaving the Army to secure their city.

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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

June 3rd, 2008 01:12 PM

rly

Care to enlight me about your background about the issue?, it's just to know if you are an intellectual authority about the subject, you know?, lately everybody thinks that knows about everything, just with the reading of some fancy blogs.

The immortal Robert Capa said a journalist must always take side, and God knows he did, near the victims, against evilness. Disagree?

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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

June 3rd, 2008 01:27 PM

Shouldnt there be a difference between journalism and reporting the news? I mean take the photo-journalist... obvious slant, and that is their purpose. To show us something. There was nothing good about the dustbowl/war/disaster so they show us the pain. To take the photo and include some meaning. We know that these agencies are slanted and I agree, it can be very subtle. But I did read that FoxNews is a clear ratings winner, for a long time, that says something. I think its up to the reader/viewer to know it when they see it and move on. These guys are completely annoying, but certainly not robots.

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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

June 3rd, 2008 01:34 PM

I didn't see a lot of professionnalism from american journalist during the anti-french campaign.
If only critism towards america is feel as a anti-american feelings,
then i don't know how it is called when you insult a country with paragraph in the style of a dirty newspaper as american newspaper did !
This retard attitude has successfully cut me from the american media even if i could forgive them the wdm affair because it was base on a false official report.



Obama has certainly the best charisma to reverse the bad image the world has of USA and go out USA from its isolationnism.

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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

June 3rd, 2008 01:53 PM

Ah Lobo, it is so good to hear from you again!

As far as my heavy-handed Euro comment: point taken. Nuff said.

Concerning journalists, of course they have an opinion. The problem is they act like they are so neutral or above the fray as not to be affected when clearly they are. I've listened to some of these gentlemen on talk shows and they won't tell you even who they voted for as they claim there sacred neutrality. Their hypocrasy is so evident that they might as well declare a politcial affliation and we all would be better for it.

As far as WMDs - they still exist somewhere in the Arab world IMHO.

New Orleans is a city in a state in the country of the United States.

New Orleans has a mayor who is to talk to the governor who then talks to the President's reps in time of emergency, in this case FEMA. I don't claim to be an expert in any of this but I do know the burden of this should rest at the local level. That is just the way the chain of command is organized.

Did you know that a great amount of people in New Orleans declined to leave the city because they were waiting for their welfare checks in the US mail? That money was allocated for damn reinforcement by the US government but the reinforcing of the ultimately ruptured damn was blocked by environmental groups? That some police in the area became the greatest looters? That the local Congressional rep had The Army Reserve ferry him to his house so he could literally get "cold cash" (that was illegally gotten $75k) out of his flooded mansion? That once FEMA was called in they responded greatly, overly so as a matter of fact, giving away money vouchers ultimately used for $300 purses, call girls and new TVs? That the local government herded everyone into the Super Dome with no further logistical support? That people without food when offered gourmet sandwiches and water declined them and asked for "McDonalds and a Coke" instead?

That situation was much more complicated and fucked up then people simply wanting to blame it George W. Bush I'm sorry.

Frankly, I don't even want to defend Pres. Bush that much but all the biased bs that gets thrown out just makes me sick. And, in a sick way, I feel like I got to stand up for the man because of it.

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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

June 3rd, 2008 01:57 PM

On a sidenote: This is were the mischief peaked. This was when old europe and the states clashed. The U.S. intelligence came up with these vague assumptions that tended to increase in weight the longer others were not convinced. And the british intelligence was fed with false information by the states. (The british being involved is a different story and comes to light if you look at the greater scale of british policy during the past centuries, being indepted to the States.)


In January 2003, United Nations weapons inspectors reported that they had found no indication that Iraq possessed nuclear weapons or an active program. Some former UNSCOM inspectors disagree about whether the United States could know for certain whether or not Iraq had renewed production of weapons of mass destruction. Robert Gallucci said, "If Iraq had [uranium or plutonium], a fair assessment would be they could fabricate a nuclear weapon, and there's no reason for us to assume we'd find out if they had." Similarly, former inspector Jonathan Tucker said, "Nobody really knows what Iraq has. You really can't tell from a satellite image what's going on inside a factory."

See, so the positions and conclusions of the U.N. were similar to german or french intelligence reports.

And on the basis of that, german foreign minister adressed Mr. Rumsfeld: "Excuse me, I am not convinced".(google cache in case it selects the wrong language)

That is quiet contrary to your statement.

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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?

June 3rd, 2008 02:05 PM

He may has the best world wide image but so many of us just can't trust him. So little is really know about him.

As far as France, your country got caught up in a lot of emotion after 9/11 with the American public. It is sad but true and I was cracking the jokes as well at the time.

However, now, you have a new President and I feel a new direction and I for one would relish the old friendships that once existed between our countries.

I understand that there are some states in the US now preparing to purchase nuclear reactors from French companies and I am ever so glad for that. About time!

And, from the new National Treasure movie, I learned there are three Statue of Liberties in the world...