Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
 

He-he, I may run out of energy but trust me I don't run out of ideas... :)

Let's see -

1) Bush used propanganda to push the war in Iraq.

The root of this is the assumption that Bush lied about WMDs. So old, so warn out, so mistated.

Every intelligence agency in the world had this assumption at the time of the conflict. Every one. Show me one (non-Arab) that thought different.

Or did they think anything (or even care)...?

2) Hurricane Katrina and aid to New Orleans victims was a massive government failure.

The US government only acts in conjunction with being asked for aid from the state involved, in this case Louisiana. It has been showed that the governments of New Orleans and Louisiana were so inept in their role that was the real cause of this situation, both in asking supplying and asking for aid as well as the initial funding to secure the damns about the city. The voters of Louisiana overwhelmingly voted out that governor and replaced him with Bobby Jindl, a very Conservative Republican.

The fact that these two mainstream Democratic talking points are cited reflect strategy and motive as just trying to dovetail on established "truths".

3) Carl Rove & Scooter Libby lied about roles in Valerie Plame

Rove quote Hannity & Colmes:

ROVE: He says that following a meeting Scooter and I visited in 2005. Well, Scooter and I visited all the time. I don't know what the particular meeting in question was about. I know what it wasn't about, which was it was not about Plame and Wilson. He was the vice president's chief of staff, and, as a result, we had a lot of business, and I think it's frankly maybe a sign of irresponsibility for Scott to sort of suggest that because he saw the two of us meet and he didn't happen to be in the meeting he somehow knows what the meeting was about. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/spc.gif

COLMES: What about this specific charge that he's claiming that you misled him about your level of involvement in the Valerie Plame case?

ROVE: That's simply not true.

Hannity then piped up and said, "If he really felt this way, why didn't he leave earlier?"

ROVE: This doesn't sound like Scott, it really doesn't, not the Scott McClellan I've known for a long time. Second of all, it sounds like somebody else, sounds like a left-wing blogger. Second of all, you're right, if he had these moral qualms, he should have spoken up about them, and, frankly, I don't remember him speaking up about these things. I don't remember a single word. There were people on the White House staff, colleagues of mine, who had doubts about this or that policy --

COLMES: We're out of time.

ROVE: -- they spoke out, but this doesn't sound like Scott, frankly.

4) Voicing concerns in the White House to the President:

Francis Fragos Townsend, who was the homeland security advisor, now a CNN commentator, was on CNN, Anderson Cooper 180 last night and he asked her this. "What's your reaction to the Scott McClellan book?"

TOWNSEND: People need to understand that as an advisor to the president I or Scott have an obligation, a responsibility to voice concerns on policy issues. Scott never did that on any of these issues as best I can remember and as best I know from my White House colleagues.

COOPER: Never spoke out?

TOWNSEND: No. And so for him to do this now frankly strikes me as self-serving, disingenuous, and unprofessional.

5) President Bush never governed but campaigned.

This is coming after a Clinton presidency that was nothing but campaigning, legacy and subterfuge over sexual relationships while in the White House and governorship in Arkansas.

If anything Bush never said enough and was under constant critiscim by the press without rebuttal, contary to another McCellan book claim.

Bush's own party (myself included) insist that the bigger politcal principles were ignored and that is why the election now stands where it does.

"Nuff said. Even to you American-hating Euros :)

Also - there are inconsistancies in the book when Mr. Bush is referred to as "the president" and other times when he is referred to as simply "Bush." Ghost writer perhaps?

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
 

Knight, aren't you doing the same thing? Saying all liberals believe everything is true, sure whatever. But you're basically believing everything that is written bashing the current administration. I could grill you with the same quesitons your asking Stefan about why you know it's not true? And you have just as much proof as somebody trying to explain why it is true.

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
 

Not to interrupt, but there's a huge pre-scandal brewing, presumably about Michelle Obama's participation on some radical panel and some supposedly shocking comments she made. Look for a video tape to emerge within 24 hours: Doug Ross @ Journal

Assuming there is some truth to the rumor, the way for the Obama camp to play it is to float rumors hyping the hell out of it, so that when it comes out, viewers will think, "That's no big deal." They may already be doing that, since speculation is that it's so terrible Obama will be crippled; he can't recover; he'll drop out within a week, etc. Pretty strong stuff.

I'd look for Hillaryland's fingerprints to be all over this leak. If it isn't that big a deal, and Obama sails on majestically, this might sink her chances for VP.

This is not good for McCain, since he will beat Obama. Hillary is another question.

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
 

No I don't believe everything about the current administration and honestly have changed my opinion of Mr. Bush as of late.

There are many things I choose to criticize but this is the difference: what are the Liberals willing to say that is good with this administration?

Anything?

Dare they?

A constructive critcism is pure gold to an open heart. You can quote me on that if you want.. :)

But there is an attitude, a spirit dare I say, a constant drum beat of how all things all the time are all wrong and there is no hope until the administration changes.

There are no real solutions offered up but just criticisms and these are usually self-serving.

But when it comes to believing certain sources over others? Yep, I've got them and it's because I have lived a few years with them and they are the closest thing to my beliefs and what I feel that is best for the country.

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
 

I bet it's not true Jummy lol, I bet you guys want to believe it, just like Knight is accusing everybody of believing the Mcceallan book, you guys are going to believe rumors about Michelle Obama. Both sides believe things they shouldn't, don't think it's any different.

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
 

To get us back on topic? :)

A racial comment I believe.

Twill be interesting....but to me, not surprising...

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
 

I think you are just trying to pull a page out of my playbook... :)

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
 

I never believe fox news though, my guess is this turns out to be false, time will tell. We can comment on it in several hours or so whenever it's supposed to be revealed.

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
 

I'm awaiting the Obama boilerplate responses of "I certainly wasn't there when...", "I'm running, not ____________", or "LAY OFF MY WIFE!!!"

Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
 

I think I figured it out. Michelle Obama, is reverend wright. Only thing that makes sense.