You could post a so talented text but less machist...nevermind, it's a lost battle
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Moose12
May 28th, 2008 10:29 PM
****** Jum Jum, I haven't thrown up in disgust in a long time, but damn, you just made that record dissapear.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Flyboy1942
May 29th, 2008 02:03 AM
Coming from an American high school student who has more than a weak, passing interest in world affairs, let me tell you this:
By far the most worrying thing to me, more worrying than possible presidents, the details of a massively bloated war, or whether or not McCain would assassinate himself first night in office, is the complete hell it is to find a real sense of whats going on in the world. Everywhere you expect to find information like this is filled with a deluge of carefully designed, processed, canned, and certified information that has passed through at least one filtering group (left/right, this/that, whatever). I can get a better glimpse of the war from random vids on liveleak than hours of CNN, et al. And thats barely a glimpse.
As far as politicians go I have no friggen idea what anyone really stands for because of how artificial everything surrounding them is. I understand they're politicians and that means they traditionally wont be entirely open, but when the bit of info they actually reveal is run through the aforementioned system, any meaning is lost. I go to school and have things to do in my life other than spending hours trying to dig up info on a candidate who seems almost indistinguishable from all others. To lead a "normal life" I have to rely on someone else to develop my opinion of who our next president should be.
Most of the people I know at school will talk about how much they hate Bush or love Obama, but when asked why, or to elaborate, wont be able to say much more. maybe they just picked up on the spill over from the flow of popular culture, I wonder to myself. But the only real difference I can see between me and them is that I put no faith in anything I see or hear having to do with politics. None of us really knows the candidates or what they stand for, or what that means. Some of that is just lack of experience in the world, but a lot of it stems from this wall of twisted and convulted information standing in front of us and understanding.
Maybe I'm being too much of an alarmist about an issue that has faced civilization for eons, but with the sheer size of the world these days, I think we have it worse. At the inception of the US the population was something like 4 million. It is now over 300 million; A little over half the states have more people living in them then the entire US in 1776. Maybe breaking up the power will fix things, eh?
No...no not really. Seems the only pure democracy is anarchy.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Rafterman
May 29th, 2008 03:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moose12
You can talk about Obama's gaffe, sure. But then we look at Bush, he makes one every hour. I don't see you obama haters mentioning Bush's fuck ups which far outweigh Obamas and his cocksucking ass got 2 terms!
Well we really didn't have to point out Bush's gaffes because the media were shouting them from the rooftops whenever they happened. Nor do we need to mention McCain's because when he makes one the media are suddenly "raising concerns about his age and mental stability".
Not to mention that there is a big difference between a simple gaffe or pronouncing something differently than others do and taking a play book from the Clinton campaign plan of making incorrect, outrageous and easily confirmed statements in front of audiences simply to score points with them knowing that it will be OK b/c no one except the "kooky right-wing conspiracy machine" will ever call you on them.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Meadow
May 29th, 2008 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jumjum
You have hit upon the issue that has been completely overlooked. A McCain presidency might very well make William Henry Harrison's look like a dynasty.
Here's the way it could go the morning after the whirl of inauguration parties, with its own crush of events that comes after endless meetings and decisions and terribly difficult transition planning -
The McCains don't get in their new White House bed until 4:00 a.m. Cindy had made sure she brought their old nightcap cups from home, and pours them both their usual bedtime vodka. A Big Gulp cup for her; a 16-ounce Junior for Johnny since he's cut back these days. As an inauguration treat, and because she's been such a good girl throughout the campaign and transition period, she tosses 20 or so Oxycontins into hers to dissolve while John is straining to produce a bloody trickle of urine in the Warren G. Harding bidet.
As they trade places and Cindy goes to replace the Maxipad that she has to wear constantly now that menopause has completely screwed up her body, John absentmindedly grabs the 32-ounce Gulp and drains it in one breath, like he used to at Tailhook. Rather, like he did at the good Tailhook conventions. Back when they had those drunk, gorgeous girls with all those gorgeous tits just dying to give away all that gorgeous pussy. Like Cindy. Good days for a hot hero fighter jock they were. What a babe Cindy was then! God, what a juicy piece of pussy.....at least it was back before menopause had turned it into two huge flaps of what looked like beef jerky and smelled like dead catfish. Ah, the good Tailhook. Before they were ruined by all those feminist cun....Damn, gotta stop thinking like that if I don't want to screw up and say what I really think. He collapses in bed.
As Cindy sits and repeatedly uses the bidet spray flush to try to hydrate her Death Valley labia, she rewards herself a little more with a half-dozen additional Oxys, which she grinds up by hand right on the Coolidge bathroom counter. She lowers here head and just hoovers the powder straight into her nose, no straw. Oh yeah. She may rest here a minute......
*Three hours later* Cindy jerks awake, still slumped on the pot, just as she was four hours earlier, with her panties around her feet and feminine hygiene products next to them. "Honey, time to get up....Let's go, Mr. President.....Come on, John, lots to do today....John?...John?...John!"
*Cut to White House, as the incoming Chief Of Staff addresses the new executive team: "Okay, gotta get organized. Let's assign access passes and office space in the West Wing first." *Secretary rushes in, frantically whispers to the Chief.He speaks again: "Well. I see. Okay then. Look, everybody who was supposed to get an all-access pass to the White House, this might take a little while longer." *Cries of disbelief, irritation, confusion* "Sorry, it can't be helped. We have to wait and see who President Paul wants to have these things.......
Dum dum duuuuuuummmmmmm!!!!!
Crazier things have happened.
There is no God.
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
stylie
May 29th, 2008 04:12 PM
^^^Kommunist!!!^^^
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
Gen'l Knight
May 30th, 2008 08:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy1942
Coming from an American high school student who has more than a weak, passing interest in world affairs, let me tell you this:
By far the most worrying thing to me, more worrying than possible presidents, the details of a massively bloated war, or whether or not McCain would assassinate himself first night in office, is the complete hell it is to find a real sense of whats going on in the world. Everywhere you expect to find information like this is filled with a deluge of carefully designed, processed, canned, and certified information that has passed through at least one filtering group (left/right, this/that, whatever). I can get a better glimpse of the war from random vids on liveleak than hours of CNN, et al. And thats barely a glimpse.
As far as politicians go I have no friggen idea what anyone really stands for because of how artificial everything surrounding them is. I understand they're politicians and that means they traditionally wont be entirely open, but when the bit of info they actually reveal is run through the aforementioned system, any meaning is lost. I go to school and have things to do in my life other than spending hours trying to dig up info on a candidate who seems almost indistinguishable from all others. To lead a "normal life" I have to rely on someone else to develop my opinion of who our next president should be.
Most of the people I know at school will talk about how much they hate Bush or love Obama, but when asked why, or to elaborate, wont be able to say much more. maybe they just picked up on the spill over from the flow of popular culture, I wonder to myself. But the only real difference I can see between me and them is that I put no faith in anything I see or hear having to do with politics. None of us really knows the candidates or what they stand for, or what that means. Some of that is just lack of experience in the world, but a lot of it stems from this wall of twisted and convulted information standing in front of us and understanding.
Maybe I'm being too much of an alarmist about an issue that has faced civilization for eons, but with the sheer size of the world these days, I think we have it worse. At the inception of the US the population was something like 4 million. It is now over 300 million; A little over half the states have more people living in them then the entire US in 1776. Maybe breaking up the power will fix things, eh?
No...no not really. Seems the only pure democracy is anarchy.
There is so much truth in this young man's post it is frightening.
He hit the essence of it when he stated that:
"As far as politicians go I have no friggen idea what anyone really stands for because of how artificial everything surrounding them is."
Bingo, bingo bingo...
There are so many forces in the background of each of these candidates, each vying for a stake in the American Pie for whatever their sorted reasons are.
That they truly care about the American people and what is best for them?
Bulldonkey...
They care:
#1 about themselves
#2 pleasing their financial backers
And for those of you who like to rail about "big corporate money" ruining politics these amount pail in comparision to the George Socerous's of the world.
Nice little dollars trickling continuously into Barak's campaign when supposedly the USA economy is so bad and gas purchases and travel are impaired?
No sorry. The common man doesn't hate the Republicans so much but the big money backers do.
I like the idea of cleansing the political house and starting over. I have thought so for many years.
+1 rep if I can do it..... (disabled but I gave it anyways...)
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Re: Barack Obama, should I be worried?
jumjum
May 30th, 2008 09:52 AM
It's "George Soros", but that's the only error you made.
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