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GirlsHateMe March 13th, 2008 08:04 PM

What if Hitler got captured ?
 
Say if Hitler was captured alive what would you think might happen to him ?

Moose12 March 13th, 2008 08:08 PM

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Subsequently executed.

Gen'l Knight March 13th, 2008 08:25 PM

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Hung by the neck till he was dead...along with the rest of his cronies.

Lobo March 13th, 2008 08:29 PM

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Cabaret?

http://www.danzaballet.com/userimages/cabaret.jpg


erm...no, what good old Gen'l Knight said

Gnar_Kill March 13th, 2008 09:03 PM

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YouTube - Saddam Capture القبض على صدام

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JohnWalker March 13th, 2008 09:52 PM

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He'd be given a parade through Red Square. What the fuck do you think would happen to him?

foodmaniac2003 March 13th, 2008 10:13 PM

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I'm rather glad that Hitler decided to kill himself. This is going to sound so strange but it really makes for a better ending to the greatest "story" (simply for lack of a better word. No, I'm not calling WWII a story) ever told. Hitler being captured would be totally out of his character. A man half-crazed holed in a bunker in the last city which was only a few years back an empire made of almost all of Europe is NOT going to let himself be captured.

Hitler himself saw what happened to other officials captured. He was afraid of his body being paraded through the streets as a war prize.

Coca-Cola March 13th, 2008 10:49 PM

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You guys are so unimaginative...

Why oh why would you just kill him outright instead of dragging it on? Such a quick punishment would not be just. First, you make him watch every episode of Gilmore girls; just so he goes "this isn't hell but it's not heaven, it's something in between..." Then you take him to a gay parade and tell them he's your toy for the evening and you can do this in as many cities as you want. While in all the cities you also have a day of kicks to the nuts where athletes go first according to kicking power. Then for the rest of his life you dress him up as a clown and put him in a dunk tank at various Bar mitzvahs. That's what would happen. :P

Archimonde0_0 March 14th, 2008 03:38 AM

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I heard a team was trained to assasinate hitler near the eagles nest, never did it though because allied command thought Hitler would bring an end to germany faster than they could.

Von Mudra March 14th, 2008 03:41 AM

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Yeah, I saw the history channel show on that. They realized that the german army would greatly improve in fighting capability if Hitler was killed. Kinda ironic that Germany would have been in a better situation had their leader been killed...don't think that happens very often.

roekeloos[NL] March 14th, 2008 06:42 AM

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yes thats why germany lost the war :P Wuhaha

Gen'l Knight March 14th, 2008 09:52 AM

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The Russian had (maybe still) a hard time believing Hitler was actually dead per something I saw on the Discovery, Military Channel, somewhere...

The Doubting Thomas Syndrome..

Stefan F March 14th, 2008 11:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gen'l Knight (Post 4260712)
The Russian had (maybe still) a hard time believing Hitler was actually dead per something I saw on the Discovery, Military Channel, somewhere...

The Doubting Thomas Syndrome..

Stalin had a hard time believing it , till his death , the KGB and what it was called during the war , knew it for sure pretty much the day they found the bunker, the allies on the other hand werent informed for a long time after.

jumjum March 14th, 2008 01:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gen'l Knight (Post 4260712)
The Russian had (maybe still) a hard time believing Hitler was actually dead per something I saw on the Discovery, Military Channel, somewhere...

The Doubting Thomas Syndrome..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan F (Post 4260777)
Stalin had a hard time believing it , till his death , the KGB and what it was called during the war , knew it for sure pretty much the day they found the bunker, the allies on the other hand werent informed for a long time after.

Stefan F. that's pretty much right, although Stalin most certainly did know Hitler was dead. He used the pretense of Hitler's survival to suggest Western collusion in spiriting Hitler away in an attempt to damage the USSR, etc. The usual Stalin game of deceit upon deceit for reasons just as convoluted as his lies.

Almost as soon as the Russians had control of the bunker they began an extensive search for Hitler, conducted primarily by members of the NKVD, which was the Soviet secret police, and SMERSH, the military intelligence unit. They discovered what they were fairly sure was Hitler's (and Eva Braun's) body in the Chancellery garden on May 4th. The Soviets found a significantly burned body, but ultimately recovered most of the skull (with a small-caliber bullet wound) and the jaw.

Within a matter of days the Soviets had thoroughly interrogated Hitler's dentist, Fritz Echtmann, and his dental assistant, Kaethe Hausermann. Colonel Vasili Gorbushin and interpreter Yelena Rzhevskaya showed each the jaws which contained the teeth and bridgework, and each identified the remains as Hitler's. Both separately and identically sketched out Hitler's dental pattern, which included quite extensive and distinctive bridge work called a "hanging bridge", for author Cornelius Ryan while he was researching The Last Battle. Apparently enough of Hitler's dental records were recovered that additional confirmation was made. All this checks with the skull and jaws Moscow still has.

The rest of Hitler's body was moved and reburied several times in and around Magdeburg. In 1970 the remains were finally completely cremated, and the ashes flushed into the Magdeburg sewer system.

Part of Stalin's apparent initial uncertainty over Hitler's death may have been genuine. During the autopsy of the Hitler remains on May 8 by Soviet pathologists in Moscow, the doctors found evidence of cyanide and listed this as the cause of death. (I am uncertain about whether they had the skull or if they did, how they treated the bullet wound). But Stalin's recovery teams had said the Hitler skull had a bullet hole in the skull, and must obviously have died by gunshot. Perhaps Stalin was concerned there were parts of two bodies, and one or both were plants, etc. But certainly Stalin knew Hitler was dead within a matter of weeks, long before he stopped saying Hitler was still alive in Argentina.

All this was a very closely held secret even within the USSR, and even Zhukov was not informed until 1965.

Stefan F March 14th, 2008 02:10 PM

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they found the skull later on ( dont know by how much ) while digging the same ground again

Kubador March 14th, 2008 02:41 PM

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Somewhere on discovery was shown the probable Hitlers skull in Moscows archives (you could call it that way). Either way if he would be captured it wouldn't change his fait much since it was sealed once Germans lost at Kursk.

IMHO better question is " What if that guy instead of politician became a painter". (His paintings were boooring but decent)

FlyGuy45 March 14th, 2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubador (Post 4261044)
IMHO better question is " What if that guy instead of politician became a painter". (His paintings were boooring but decent)

Reminds me of my lessons of this week:
"Hitler wanted to paint, but did not get into the school."
"What if he did?"
*Silence*

The Last Unknown Soldier March 14th, 2008 02:59 PM

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he'd still commit suicide because his rascist and impressionistic art would be unpopular with many

Kubador March 14th, 2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyGuy45 (Post 4261063)
"Hitler wanted to paint, but did not get into the school."
"What if he did?"
*Silence*

*After a while someone raises a hand*
- I would have a grandpa?

I know it's dark but I couldn't resist. Evil FTW!

jumjum March 14th, 2008 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan F (Post 4260998)
they found the skull later on ( dont know by how much ) while digging the same ground again

They found the remaining part of the skull later. They got a portion of it in the first recovery, although I'm not sure which.

Meadow March 14th, 2008 04:40 PM

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He would've been shot by some angry Russian soldier within seconds of leaving the bunker. No two ways about it.

It's a shame, really. It would have been far more beneficial to mankind to be able to study and examine Hitler's mindset in full detail before his inevitable trial and execution.

hockeywarrior2 March 14th, 2008 04:53 PM

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...this thread wouldn't exist!

Coca-Cola March 14th, 2008 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Meadow (Post 4261198)
He would've been shot by some angry Russian soldier within seconds of leaving the bunker. No two ways about it.

It's a shame, really. It would have been far more beneficial to mankind to be able to study and examine Hitler's mindset in full detail before his inevitable trial and execution.

Exactly!...and doing all the things that I suggested as well before he's shot.

silian March 14th, 2008 06:04 PM

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IMO if Hitler had been captured he would've done the same thing as Goering.

Artistically Hitler's downfall was that he wasn't too good at replicating the human figure, he was decent at doing landscapes but hopeless at portraits, even when he produced landscapes that depicted people in the scene they were little more than stick men. IIRC from my GCSE and A-Level History.

Spencer the Great March 14th, 2008 06:06 PM

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Time for a healthy dose of satire courtesy of The Onion.



'Hitler Commits Suicide; Ravaging of Europe a "Desperate Cry for Help,' Say Therapists

Fuhrer's Slaughter of Millions Blamed on 'Serious Self-Esteem Issues'

'If We Had Only Known How Much He Was Hurting on the Inside,' FDR Says





Hitler was the first emo kid

Kubador March 14th, 2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spencer the Great (Post 4261278)
Hitler was the first emo kid

Ergo, we must kill emos to prevent any further wars... Fair trade if you ask me - making two "good" things at a time.

Spencer the Great March 15th, 2008 08:42 AM

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Not so fast Kubador lol, Mudra might be lurking around here :P

General_Henry March 15th, 2008 09:25 AM

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If Hitler's captured the end of WW2 won't be that romantic, afterall.

just joking.

Stray03 March 15th, 2008 09:37 AM

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Sure Hitler was an Idiot but Stalin was my least favorite of the time period.If the Germans had been with us against the russians, we would have made him look like an angel and stalin the devil.

Look at what being on the russians side did to Europe... and look at all those years of the cold war.


Hitler was just an Idiot not "Pure Evil", Stalin was the evil one.

Biiviz March 15th, 2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Stray03 (Post 4261770)
Sure Hitler was an Idiot but Stalin was my least favorite of the time period.If the Germans had been with us against the russians, we would have made him look like an angel and stalin the devil.

Look at what being on the russians side did to Europe... and look at all those years of the cold war.


Hitler was just an Idiot not "Pure Evil", Stalin was the evil one.

Hitler would probably not have been too nice to Europe either, but I agree, Stalin was an asshole.

torenico March 15th, 2008 11:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Archimonde0_0 (Post 4260488)
I heard a team was trained to assasinate hitler near the eagles nest, never did it though because allied command thought Hitler would bring an end to germany faster than they could.


yeah an entire scuad whit bazookas will ambush the hitlers car on the mountain.. and a super scuad whit thompsons will enter to the bulding and kill everything (thats H channel ! )

Lobo March 16th, 2008 02:56 PM

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Question: what did happen to Bormann?, he was trialed at Nuremberg in absence, but Berlin by beevor says he was killed when he was trying to fly from ruskies

FlyGuy45 March 16th, 2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lobo (Post 4263328)
Question: what did happen to Bormann?, he was trialed at Nuremberg in absence, but Berlin by beevor says he was killed when he was trying to fly from ruskies

Many people think he went to South America. Lobo, it is your duty to go find him. You are the only one that can do it. :lol:

They found his skeleton, and with DNA have proven it as his.

jumjum March 16th, 2008 04:37 PM

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Yes. In 1972 his remains were found at the above-ground Lehrter subway station, noted on the map below. This is consistent with the testimony of Hitler Youth head Artur Axmann who broke out with Bormann and several other bunker personnel late on night of May 1st.

They linked up with SS Brigadier Monnke's troops for the mass breakout across the Spree at the Weidendammer Bridge (marked on map) using Berlin's last remaining tanks and Hanomags. It was a slaughter. Axmann said he, Bormann and Dr. Stumpfegger (Hitler's last Dr. Feelgood), were in soldiers' uniforms and were next to a tank which was hit by a handheld AT weapon, after which they split up. He retraced his steps later and found both Bormann and Stumpfegger dead where Bormann's remains were found in 1972.



http://greyfalcon.us/restored/myPictures/bormapa.gif

Spencer the Great March 16th, 2008 05:38 PM

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Nice map Jummy. How long did it take you to make that?

jumjum March 16th, 2008 08:01 PM

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Heh. I want to perfectly clear: I created nothing...I just stole the bandwidth. Here - http://greyfalcon.us/restored/myPictures/bormapa.gif

It's Happy Fun Ball! March 18th, 2008 10:26 AM

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Yea Borman died trying to sneak out of Berlin. Not as ironic as I would like, but not bad.

What bugs me is that Speer charmed his way out of the gallows and into a light sentence. Goering was the only other high level Nazi they caught, and only because he was so drugged at that point he couldn't kill himself. Ironically in prison Goering got clean, and for the trial, was his old self again. He was actually able to mount a spirited defence at Nuremberg.

Sizum85 March 19th, 2008 11:37 AM

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what happened to Mengele,the "doctor" who did "medical" experiments at Auschwitz?

Biiviz March 19th, 2008 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sizum85 (Post 4266690)
what happened to Mengele,the "doctor" who did "medical" experiments at Auschwitz?

I can't remember if he was hanged or if he got away to South America... I think he got away, though.

foodmaniac2003 March 19th, 2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sizum85 (Post 4266690)
what happened to Mengele,the "doctor" who did "medical" experiments at Auschwitz?

He died in South America. My memory isn't too clear on this, but I think he died from either a heart attack while swimming, or he smashed his head against a rock by accident.

jumjum March 19th, 2008 03:30 PM

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All I remember from the time was that Mengele's remains had finally been identified - no one at the time had any idea about cause of death. Wiki says he drowned after suffering a stroke while swimming, but I'm unsure.

The hung one you're thinking about was Adolph Eichmann. Mossad agents kidnapped Eichmann in Argentina ca. 1960, and spirited him to Israel where he was put on trial, convicted and eventually hung. Heh. Kidnapped by Mossad agents and takent to Israel to answer for your actions during the war - an old nazi's greatest fear.

RexRaptor March 19th, 2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by It's Happy Fun Ball! (Post 4265272)
Yea Borman died trying to sneak out of Berlin. Not as ironic as I would like, but not bad.

What bugs me is that Speer charmed his way out of the gallows and into a light sentence. Goering was the only other high level Nazi they caught, and only because he was so drugged at that point he couldn't kill himself. Ironically in prison Goering got clean, and for the trial, was his old self again. He was actually able to mount a spirited defence at Nuremberg.

<_< I'm probably the only person who thinks that the top nazi leaders shouldn't of had been killed. Tried? sure. Not killed. Their knowledge is far too useful to just go to waste.

It's Happy Fun Ball! March 19th, 2008 04:24 PM

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Knowledge? I am sorry but while there were very capable Germans under the Nazi regime, the top brass were remarkably incompetent. The lower level and intelligent one WERE spirited away to the US and the USSR.

Anyways there crimes were so monstrous they could not possibly have any stay of execution.

jumjum March 19th, 2008 06:56 PM

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"Sure, Jack The Ripper may have murdered a few prostitutes. But are we going to execute him and lose all that precious psycho-sexual surgery knowledge?"

torenico March 19th, 2008 11:11 PM

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Well, the Brandemburg Tor was used as a airstrip when the germans has lost the Berlin Airport

theres a starnge report, about a Storch who landed on the Brandemburg Tor street,the plane was hit by a russian AA gun, the pilot was the famous german pilot (Who fly a german helicopter), and the passenger a luftwaffe commander

but, the plane was on berlin, as a (Unknown) person say, the Fi Stor take off from berlin, who was inside,... who knowns, maybe, hitler scaped to Swiss, neutral to germany, or german Dennmark or german Norway

The plane was shooted by soviet soldier, the used every weapon for take the plane down, to heavy guns, like DP's to Pistols..

im wanna known who was inside of that plane, or maybe,, the plast film of hitler, was hes last time at berlin, maybe he scaped from berlin, only the people of the bunker, eva and hitler knwons the truth behind this misterius war

Black[CDN] March 19th, 2008 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by torenico (Post 4267400)
Well, the Brandemburg Tor was used as a airstrip when the germans has lost the Berlin Airport

theres a starnge report, about a Storch who landed on the Brandemburg Tor street,the plane was hit by a russian AA gun, the pilot was the famous german pilot (Who fly a german helicopter), and the passenger a luftwaffe commander

but, the plane was on berlin, as a (Unknown) person say, the Fi Stor take off from berlin, who was inside,... who knowns, maybe, hitler scaped to Swiss, neutral to germany, or german Dennmark or german Norway

The plane was shooted by soviet soldier, the used every weapon for take the plane down, to heavy guns, like DP's to Pistols..

im wanna known who was inside of that plane, or maybe,, the plast film of hitler, was hes last time at berlin, maybe he scaped from berlin, only the people of the bunker, eva and hitler knwons the truth behind this misterius war

General Robert Ritter von Greim and flying ace Hanna Reitsch were the people in the Storch. Greim received injuries to his leg from being shot at by the Russians but both made it into Hitler's Berlin bunker alive. Hanna Reitsch survived the war and won many medals for flying. Greim killed himself after being captured by American soldiers and out of fear of his being sent to a Russia POW camp. He took potassium cyanide, his last words were 'I am general of the luftwaffe, but i have no luftwaffe'.

[130.Pz]W.Fuchs March 21st, 2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hockeywarrior2 (Post 4261211)
...this thread wouldn't exist!

I can't comment on this one, it's just completely right :nodding:

Mr. Pedantic March 21st, 2008 02:47 PM

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He took potassium cyanide, his last words were 'I am general of the luftwaffe, but i have no luftwaffe'.
Gross. What a bad way to die.

[130.Pz]W.Fuchs March 22nd, 2008 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sizum85 (Post 4266690)
what happened to Mengele,the "doctor" who did "medical" experiments at Auschwitz?

He first went on vacation to Argentina but in 1959 Josef desided to move to Brazil. Where he died in his SWIMMINGPOOL after a heartattack. That was 1979.
Not all nazi's got their punishment.

Mr. Pedantic March 22nd, 2008 09:49 AM

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He first went on vacation to Argentina but in 1959 Josef desided to move to Brazil. Where he died in his SWIMMINGPOOL after a heartattack. That was 1979.
Not all nazi's got their punishment.
Guilt? And he did what he thought was the right thing to do. How do you punish someone who thinks they are doing the right thing?


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